<p>Duartes! I worked as a carpenter for Neil Young many years ago, and everybody in that group, including Neil, loved Duartes. Great breakfasts too. </p>
<p>Oh, and my bro chose H for undergrad and went to S for med school. Loved them both. </p>
<p>Somebody mentioned that S's weather is NoCal weather, not San Diego weather. Big difference between Palo Alto weather and SF weather. Palo Alto weather is perfect, IMO.</p>
<p>'Stanford sports -- the school has repeatedly won the award for best overall college sports programs (someone help me with the name of the award?).</p>
<p>Sears cup</p>
<p>Exclusive of the person's proposed major, both schools are highly respected. For historical purposes, Harvard is one of the oldest and most respected names in education. Having said this, however, Stanford is a world class institution that I believe bests Harvard's at the undergraduate level.</p>
<p>Your child needs to assess their personal feel for both schools and ask themselves where they would rather be and if the culture of the campus will enamor them four years later.</p>
<p>Either school should suit this person well.</p>
<p>Best wishes.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>(someone help me with the name of the award?)<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>The Director's Cup:</p>
<p>NACDA</a> Director's Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Not so fast. Olympic medallists at 10 paces<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>No, we are talking scholarly achievement here. The key measurement is current Supreme Court Justices:</p>
<p>Justice Undergrad/Law School</p>
<p>Alito Princeton/Yale
Scalia Georgetown/Harvard
Ginsburg Cornell/ Harvard, Columbia
Roberts Harvard/Harvard
Stevens Chicago/Northwestern
Kennedy Stanford/Harvard
Souter Harvard/Harvard
Thomas Holy Cross/Yale
Breyer Stanford/Harvard</p>
<p>Final Score: Harvard 6, Yale 2, Stanford 2</p>
<p>"You would not believe how many students do exactly that. When I was at the admitted students weekend with my daughter a few years back, the Stanford kids were coming in in droves!"</p>
<p>Is anyone else here doing that this year?</p>
<p>I haven't received my financial aid offer yet (they wanted more forms), but Harvard apparently gives travel grants (and since I got those from Stanford and Princeton, Harvard will hopefully offer me one too based on my financial need) and I want to know whether it's possible to ask them to cover all or part of the flight between San Francisco and Boston. The other (more inconvenient for luggage) option is to fly to my hometown from SFO (which Stanford will cover) and then transfer to a flight to BOS (which Harvard would cover).</p>
<p>Prior to 2003, the sponsor of the NACDA Directors' Cup was retail merchandiser Sears, and the award was known as the Sears Cup. Stanford University has won the award for the best Division I collegiate athletics program for 13 straight years, winning 13 out of the 14 years it has been offered</p>
<p>Thanks for the help with the name of the sports award. And if pies are considered, why not the sports program. Of course Stanford gives athletic scholarships and Harvard does not.</p>
<p>P.S. And Stanford is running away with it again this year :) and given how the spring sports are shaping up, will get its 14th this year. (Sears/Directors' Cup, terms are used interchangeably) Standings as of 3/27, which don't even yet include the women's basketball points; and often Stanford is behind at this point and wins with the spring sports, so things are looking good:</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford 668</li>
<li>Penn State 572</li>
<li>Ohio State 506</li>
<li>Cal 499</li>
<li>Michigan 490</li>
<li>Wisconsin 477</li>
<li>Texas 471</li>
<li>Arizona State 468</li>
<li>Florida 458</li>
<li>Florida State 432</li>
<li>UCLA 347</li>
</ol>
<p>One little perk: every varsity athlete at Stanford gets a Sears Cup shirt (always different, and nice quality, usually long-sleeved Nike or underarmour) when they win.</p>
<p>P.S. full disclosure on the Directors' Cup though: the way the system works is skewed toward Stanford which fields so many varsity teams and can choose which teams (obviously, the top-finishing ones) are used for points per season.<br>
National</a> Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics - Directors Cup</p>
<p>But the fact that Stanford has so many sports and that they perform at such high levels (leaving aside football for the moment, although things are looking up), and that the facilities are unparalleled, also definitely gives a unique flavor to the campus. Yesterday was a somewhat extreme example: simultaneously there were women's lacrosse games, the Stanford Track and Field Invitational, the swimming Grand Prix invitational (one of two sites as warmups for the Olympic Trials), and a baseball game (No. 13 Stanford vs. No. 1 Arizona State, so not just ANY baseball game). Every overflow parking area around the athletic facilities was filled to capacity and it was kind of a zoo. Not to mention that this afternoon the women's basketball are playing in the Final Four!</p>
<p>I would go with Harvard definitely. I was accepted into Stanford but I wish I had applied to Harvard. I feel blessed but I am somewhat unhappy. </p>
<p>Stanford is almost as prestigious. The reason why Harvard has had more presidents as students is because Harvard is much older than Stanford!</p>
<p>Stanford's win of the Sears/Directors cup is especially impressive given the number of undergrads at Stanford vs the other schools on that list.....</p>
<p>Coureur, in reponse to your post #145:</p>
<p>I think you got your math or your objective mixed up... we are assessing undergraduate on this thread. With that as the objective.</p>
<p>Final Score(undergrad): Stanford and Harvard at two each, Yale zero.</p>
<h1>145 "No, we are talking scholarly achievement here. The key measurement is current Supreme Court Justices:</h1>
<p>Justice Undergrad/Law School</p>
<p>Alito Princeton/Yale
Scalia Georgetown/Harvard
Ginsburg Cornell/ Harvard, Columbia
Roberts Harvard/Harvard
Stevens Chicago/Northwestern
Kennedy Stanford/Harvard
Souter Harvard/Harvard
Thomas Holy Cross/Yale
Breyer Stanford/Harvard</p>
<p>Final Score: Harvard 6, Yale 2, Stanford 2"</p>
<p>Oh god, visit the campuses and go with the one that feels the best. At that level of prestige is it really necessary to get into a p***ing match about who has more presidents or sc justices?</p>
<p>we are having fun, BedHead :) slow day here.</p>
<p>I think the OP left the building.</p>
<p>Hey BedHead, our academic pedigrees should preclude us from taking part in this conversation...;)</p>
<p>The point about Harvard having more Presidents than Stanford because it is older would be more convincing if there hadn't been three Presidents with Harvard degrees (one of them, of course, an MBA, who hasn't exactly reflected a lot of glory on Harvard Business School) since the first, and only, Stanford President. And Harvard has a dog in the current hunt, too. Within a few months, there will have been nine individuals with a major party's nomination for President since 1988, and seven of them will have had degrees from Harvard, Yale, or both (unfortunately).</p>
<p>As for Supreme Court Justices -- I think a university can take credit both for undergraduates and for law students. But if one had looked a couple of years ago, the count would have been a bit more even, since Alito replaced a Stanford BA JD and Roberts a Stanford JD. For about a decade, there were actually three Stanford BAs on the Court to one Harvard AB.</p>
<p>A few days ago a poster (ec8?) commented on tourists at Harvard. My son was there for the summer (2007) taking a course. The first day or two he would write and comment to me on the tourists asking him for directions in a somewhat whimsical, amused manner. After that (he was there 8 weeks) they became increasingly less charming and more distracting. Visitors though were not allowed in the libraries or cafeterias.</p>
<p>I have nothing to comment on about Stanford as I have been to California only once in my life.</p>
<p>Good luck on your decision OP.</p>
<p>The tourists are more of an issue for freshmen as they live in the yard. They don't impact students' lives as much once they live in the houses.</p>