<p>Both are great schools. My kid never considered Yale - location was the deciding factor.</p>
<p>Oh, come on, espanol, if you really believe that you’re crazy. Engineering is hard and still the worst science at Yale by a bit. But Yale sciences as a whole have dramatically improved over past five to ten years and getting into the best med schools is not a problem. The facilities argument and inferiority complex – it should also be noted – are downright wrong. Harvard facilities are in desperate need of a renovation, but they are now cash-strapped. Yale already did extensive renovations over past decade. Also, far more Yale students than you probably think, including myself, never applied to or even considered Harvard. It is an arrogant Harvard mentality to think that everyone wants to “be them” or talks about them all the time… in reality they come up mostly around the time of Harvard-Yale. And the quotes you said are just downright stupid and I’ve never heard a single one of them as a student. Get over yourself!</p>
<p>The thing I think that gives Yale the edge is: 1) Everyone LOVES it 2) More undergrad focus 3) Newly renovated res. colleges, library, and science facilities. Yalies are super happy and the administration does everything they can to create the ultimate undergraduate experience. Because of the RC system, it truly feels like a small, happy community with the endless resources of a large university.</p>
<p>The thing that I think gives Harvard the edge is: 1) Prestige. 2) Cambridge. New Haven is WAYY better than it used to be and actually very nice, but certainly not Cambridge. I would like to note that Providence is the best college town, however, not Cambridge, so if that were the only factor you should go to Brown.</p>
<p>If you ask an uneducated foreigner or immigrant, they’ll likely know of Harvard the most. To anyone that matters, however, the prestige difference makes no difference and going to one vs. the other will certainly not help you find any more opportunities or cause you to end up in a different place 10 years down the line than if you had gone to the other.</p>
<p>My basic conclusion is those who very seriously care about maximizing prestige, the town, or engineering go to Harvard. For those who care most about UG experience, happiness, or who just don’t care about those three, they tend to go to Yale.</p>
<p>Also, espanol, your “best a university can offer” comment made me LOL. If you want the best value a college can offer in terms of opportunity for undergrads, I really think you ought to be looking at Yale, Stanford, or Princeton. Your comment on how much your parents are spending is silly and almost certainly wrong… my guess is YP spend more per undergrad because they have larger endowments per capita. But the bottom line is they are all good values.</p>
<p>Harvard is a great school. Assuming, however, that it offers things that YSPM cannot, is rather silly.</p>
<p>Assuming HSPM offer things Yale cannot, however, is not silly.</p>
<p>Shalashaska, you are a ■■■■■ and there’s little point in having a smart discussion with you. The distinction certainly is silly if the differences are academic, not cultural. There’s no need to defend Y soc. sciences, humanities, or its art/architecture/music etc programs b/c those are already widely admired, so the distinction you are trying to make is based on science. Y is top 15 in every science except engineering and computer science. And, if you are smart, you’d know that there’s very little undergraduate difference between the 11th ranked and 5th ranked science programs. In terms of med school admissions, Yale is above or on par with its HSPM peers.</p>
<p>You only spend 4 years in college. And only about a quarter or less of your classes need be in your major. So you really ought to be looking at not just one subject but the school as a whole. And you ought to be looking at the CULTURE as a whole.</p>
<p>If you are surrounded by amazing peers, you learn at least as much out of the classroom in college as you do in the classroom.</p>
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<p>Wow, you sound like a big Dbag.</p>
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<p>Sigh…just like every other fanboy/girl you miss the point. Yale is the lil wayne of colleges. No rhyming skills brah.</p>
<p>Shalashaska, you are not worth my time.</p>
<p>Ace, “DBag” is uncalled for, but I’ll agree that the sentence was very poorly worded. I was referencing a distinction I’ve read in the past on CC. The crux of the argument is that you aren’t going to be offered more jobs or opportunities purely because you attended Yale over Harvard or vice versa.</p>
<p>New Haven is a much better college town than Cambridge, and especially Providence. Also, Yale is the only Ivy that combines a “real” college city/town while being part of the NYC metro area, which makes cities like Boston or Philly look pretty insignificant by comparison. I think this fact is a real draw for students. The other big difference is how vibrant the campus social life is: Yale blows the other Ivies out of the water. Academically, both schools are strong, though Yale has a definite edge when it comes to the quality of undergrad education in most departments.</p>
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<p>Sigh. One’s arguments are more persuasive if they are reality-based. Or at least not obviously drug-induced.</p>
<p>This Y-H H-Y crossfire is getting really old. Both schools are awesome and each college has quirks that depend on the individual to decide what is right for them. In the long run, rankings or who is better than who really will not make a difference. All that matters is if the individual is satisfied with his or her schooling at Yale, Harvard, or any other school one goes to.</p>
<p>posterX is back!</p>
<p>Oh… just stop. They’re both great schools that care about their students, and try to be the best they can be. Who cares if A is supposedly better than B?</p>
<p>I was being sarcastic before but some people here are way too serious. :(</p>
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<p>LOL…wow, e-thugs? seriously?</p>