<p>the same was done for MIT</p>
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eatingfood PMed me. I trust godwithme as much as I trust you.</p>
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It is okay. The “process” should be “efficient” after 12,000 views.</p>
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<p>After going to both admit weekends and talking to students, MIT would win hands down</p>
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<p>The Harvard enrollment figure isn’t consistent across sources. Wikipedia corroborates your Yale and Princeton enrollments, yet says Harvard has 7181, which obviously makes a drastic difference in the numbers. Also, you are kind of lowballing the Yale financial aid budget. It’s over a 10% increase; at least put it on par with Princeton’s.</p>
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<p>Well, does THIS “data” also not indidicate a superior performance of Yale versus Stanford in … previous years? Although nobody expects this hodgepodge collection of unverifiable and easily fabricated anecdotes to follow closely the information that is known to the Dean of Admisssions at the HYPSM, one could expect it to be less FAR off. </p>
<p>For instance in 2008, the cross-admits “battles” among Stanford and HPY indicated that Harvard kept the lion share (amd grabbed close to 30 percent of all students who turned down The Farm) but that Princeton was doing MUCH better than in the past. On the other hand, the school against which Stanford was making the greatest progress was none other than … Yale. Considering that Dean Shaw spent many years at Yale (before leading Stanford to its recent successes) one could and should assume he MIGHT know one thing or two about the elements discussed herein. </p>
<p>Fwiw, the cross-admits battles between Stanford and Yale yielded a draw with each school taking 80 of the cross-admits. And it should be remembered that Harvard and Princeton DO better than Yale against Stanford, and in the case of Harvard much, much better!</p>
<p>So much for the “conclusions” expressed in this thread!</p>
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<p>Can I get a link to this source? I remember what you are talking about but I have not been able to find it. Also, I may be recalling incorrectly, but the same source you’re referencing implied that Stanford was already beating Princeton and had made strides in recent years to achieve a draw against Yale.</p>
<p>Don’t quote me on that - I need to reread it.</p>
<p>Of course.</p>
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<p>From [Faculty</a> Senate minutes - June 12, 2008 meeting](<a href=“You’ve requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News”>You’ve requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News)</p>
<p>“eatingfood PMed me. I trust godwithme as much as I trust you.”</p>
<p>Eatingfood is just a stranger as I am to you. When you see the other posting claims, you put them in most of the time. Why not godwithme’s? because the information unfavorable to Stanford? Unless proven otherwise, you have to assume the information accurate. </p>
<p>To correct Dunninla: M/Y (2/1): M win. H=M=4/4</p>
<p>xiggi, thanks for the link. I mis-recalled, though that link implies nothing about how Stanford is doing in cross-admits against any school besides Yale (which is a tie).</p>
<p>EDIT: Unless the very last line is talking about cross-admit losses as opposed to total number of cross-admits like I originally read it… but I think my original interpretation is correct.</p>
<p>Xiggi #227, thank you for the info. The quoted article should dispel any doubts people here might have about how seriously these top colleges take their cross-admit battles.</p>
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This statement repeated here many times on CC, and someone still tries to use this article to imply something. It is like to say that you eat 10% more than you did yesterday, how much do you eat today.</p>
<p>I believe that most of Naysayers can not answer the first question of AIME.</p>
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Actually his numbers were against Stanford. I know that Stanford is going to lose as before. To protect Stanford, I should not do this. I read Eating food’s posts before and know him on CC for a long time. I just have no idea who godwtime is, and the way he/she wrote made me think twice.</p>
<p>Sample size, biased data, etc do not matter. I believe this result as much as everyone else does. The key is that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy when it is stapled on google’s first page. In 10 years, it will become true. </p>
<p>The first result for class of 2012 was stapled on google when it was viewed 6000 times. Today, the thread was viewed over 20,000 times. And people get there by googling “Harvard Yale Princeton Stanford”.</p>
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<p>Yes, I am aware of Harvard’s Wikipedia statistic; however, I am not quite positive how that was obtained since it isn’t correct. Harvard admits approximately 2,100 students per year. If it actually had 7,181 undergraduates, it’s yield rate would be somewhere in the mid-80s, percentage-wise, which is not correct. </p>
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<p>Yale’s alleged minimum-level increase of 10% over last year’s financial aid budget sets a lower limit of $110M, although it could very well be nearer to the value that you imagine. I have not found an exact figure, unfortunately.</p>
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<p>What are you trying to say? What is it exactly that someone is trying to … imply? </p>
<p>The statements made by Shaw are clear.</p>
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<p>Are you saying that the number of students who were admitted to Stanford but did not matriculate is volatile? Are you saying that the 27% of the Stanford admitted students who opted for Harvard in 2008 is not comparable to the 27 percent of 2007? </p>
<p>Is there something wrong in accepting the facts and figures presented by Dean Shaw?</p>
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<p>What did I try to imply? How does your analogy work at all? You may have the math ability for the first AIME problem, but you might misread it. Whoops.</p>
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Let me see, Stanford admitted 2400 that year, and 27% of 2400 was 648 — went to Harvard?</p>
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<p>My apologies then, though what were you responding to? That is, who are the naysayers?</p>
<p>Are there more recent numbers than these, though? This looks like something that might have a newer version from last year.</p>
<p>HY –> going to yale</p>
<ol>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Yale- also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Yale- also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to MIT, Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Harvard- also admitted to Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to Yale</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to MIT</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to Stanford</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Princeton , Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton- also admitted to Harvard, Stanford, Yale, MIT</li>
<li>Princeton- also admitted to MIT, Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to Harvard, Stanford</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale, Princeton, and Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to MIT</li>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to Harvard and Yale</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Stanford</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard, Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to Stanford</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>MIT - also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Stanford</li>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale, Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Princeton and Yale</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard, Princeton, Stanford</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to MIT.</li>
<li>Yale- also admitted to Harvard and Princeton.</li>
<li>MIT - also admitted to Harvard.</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard and Stanford</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to MIT and Stanford</li>
<li>MIT - also admitted to Yale, Princeton, Stanford</li>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard and Princeton</li>
<li>MIT - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale and Princeton.</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to MIT</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to MIT</li>
<li>Harvard – also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford – also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford – also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton-- also admitted to Stanford</li>
<li>MIT - also admitted to Yale</li>
<li>Yale – also admitted to Harvard & Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford-- also admitted to Yale</li>
<li>Harvard – also admitted to Yale</li>
<li>Yale – also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to MIT</li>
<li>MIT - also admitted to Harvard and Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale, Princeton and Stanford</li>
<li>MIT - also admitted to Harvard and Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton - also admitted to Stanofrd and MIT</li>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale and Stanford</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale</li>
<li>Stanford - also admitted to Yale, Princeton and MIT</li>
<li>Harvard -also admitted to Yale</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale and Princeton</li>
<li>Yale - also admitted to Harvard, Princeton and Stanford</li>
<li>Harvard - also admitted to Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT</li>
<li>Yale- also admitted to Harvard</li>
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<p>H: 18/42
Y: 22/42
P: 14/47
S: 11/34
M: 7/22</p>
<p>I don’t think that the Stanford administrator will be writing another such “telling” letter in the future.</p>
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<p>ewho I just pmed you</p>
<p>I have a couple more cross-admit friends or people I know
let me know and I’ll post it here</p>
<p>about the stanford thing, I have like 4 people choosing S over HYPM which I did not include in the first batch.</p>