Has fiancial aid dropped this year?

<p>I didnt mean to imply that any OOS kids were off the chart unqualifies, just that they were appreciably less than average. </p>

<p>But how do you know that many OOS kids were “appreciably less than average” (and not athletes needed for a sport)?</p>

<p>*Your stats do not disprove that. Plenty of kids with between 500-600 SATs. *</p>

<p>Again, we don’t know if there are “plenty” and we don’t know if these are mostly OOS kids. </p>

<p>And, we can’t assume that such students are low in all 3 sections or just one section. For instance, a kid could have a 580 Math, but a 670 CR and 660 Writing. We can’t assume that admitted students with a low score in one section, don’t have adequate scores in the other 2 sections. Schools are often forgiving about that because they know that someone who scores lowish in math, but does well in CR and W will likely pursue a major related to that student’s strengths. And, the same goes the other way around (students who are strong in math, but may not be strong in CR or W - often because of ESL issues or similar).</p>

<p>Middle Quartiles for Bing</p>

<p>SAT Critical Reading: 580 - 670<br>
SAT Math: 620 - 700
SAT Writing: 570 - 660</p>

<p>I can’t PROVE that the OOS kids get in easier, but the Naviance data at my kid’s school and at neighboring schools seems to point that way. </p>

<p>Yes, I want the SUNYs to disclose. Its not right that they dont. California does.</p>

<p>PS I dont think SUNys look at W. And I dont assume anything.</p>

<p>Only 15% of the students at Bing are OOS. Some of those are int’l students. Since some of the OOS (non int’l) students are likely to be athletes, that leaves an even smaller number who **might **have stats that are low in BOTH math and CR…certainly not enough to worry about.</p>

<p>Mom, we can all decide what to complain about. Frankly I think that the Sunys wont disclose is the most annoying piece. I have no reason to think that athletes are disproportinatley OOS. In addition, the EOP program at Binghamton is purportedly limited to state residents. One would expect those kids to have lower stats.</p>