Havard 2+2

<p>Hi Kat,</p>

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<li><p>A background in math/stats will be a positive.</p></li>
<li><p>No, go ahead and take the courses you want. Econ classes will be helpful. </p></li>
<li><p>Don’t sign messages in an anonymous forum such as this one with your real name, most esp. if you are a girl…</p></li>
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<p>I’ll also add that there is generally a lot of misinformation on forums such as this. Make sure to do your own research and to talk to people who attend/graduated from the schools you are considering.</p>

<p>To clarify: Economics is a liberal arts major; econ classes are thus considered as liberal arts classes. Same for Math. You are <em>not</em> on a business track by being an econ major. If you add business internships to your summers, it may change the picture. But even then, I know people who have gotten in who were business majors and had interned in business.</p>

<p>Good luck,
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<p>I assume you got that from the FAQs of the website seen below but I’ve verified; despite its liberal arts status, economics is the very definition of the business-path major and they aren’t encouraged to apply. </p>

<p>** My undergraduate concentration is in a business-related field, and I have had a lot of business exposure. Is 2+2 the right program for me? **</p>

<p>* The 2+2 Program is primarily targeted towards students who are not already on a business track (i.e. students studying the liberal arts, sciences, engineering, etc.). If your current academic training and internship experiences put you on a solid foundation to advance in a business career, 2+2 may not be the right program for you. We encourage candidates with a strong track record of leadership and business exposure to consider applying as college seniors to our regular MBA Program. *</p>

<p>Also, from what I’ve heard from a reputable source (HBS administration) internships and the likes showcase an interest in business that serve as an asset to the non-business applicant’s profile (say Creative Writing or basket-weaving).</p>

<p>I agree though; do your own research. It varies from each situation and I do think that the math is an asset for you here. </p>

<p>P.S. I hardly think that a surname “Kat” poses a danger in forum interaction.</p>

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<p>Uh, no. You assumed wrong.</p>

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<p>Oh. Really? Last time I heard HBS staff admission officers talk about 2+2, econ majors were highly encouraged to apply. But, of course, I’ll listen to you before I listen to an HBS adcom…</p>

<p>You are wrong.</p>

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<p>Do you mean HBS admissions? If so, who exactly did you speak to? </p>

<p>But, again, you are wrong. An econ major does not put you on a business-track. That’s a mistaken assumption (like the one above…) A top-notch internship does. That’s how many people in IB and MC start their careers, with some never going back for an MBA.</p>

<p>(And by the way, if you indeed meant HBS admissions, trust me, you heard wrong.)</p>

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<p>Glad you think so. Anything else about which you feel like offering your misinformed opinion?</p>

<p>Hi, I am currently an Econ(Management Science to be exact, it’s listed as Econ: Management Science, it’s a B.S. instead of a B.A for Econ) major entering my second year at UCSD. I was wondering if I would be encouraged to apply to this program.</p>

<p>Also, would being an Economics research assistant hinder my chances at this program?</p>

<p>The person I talked to was a HBS representative who came to an event our school and whom I approached with particular questions about the 2+2 program. I do not know if they were directly linked to the 2+2 (they seemed very at ease discussing it and knowledgeable of its application process) and well gosh it is true they did not use BOLDED SENTENCES to make their point so I may just have to question their entire background.</p>

<p>I don’t intend to get into a back-and-forth with you. I’ve stated the information I obtained from what I consider to be an extremely credible source. I would invite Kat to settle the question for herself by and contacting the school directly. It’s never wise to rely on message board discussions for such important things.</p>

<p>Phil
<a href=“gasp%20my%20credit%20history!%20It’s%20going%20to%20hell%20as%20I%20write%20this%204-letter%20surname!%20Oh%20identity%20theft,%20thou%20are%20sneaky!”>i</a> *</p>

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<p>Thanks, Phil. Glad we see eye to eye. I’ll give you a call whenever I am nearby Columbia, to go for a chat.</p>

<p>Wow Wildflower, I just had to stop and take a second and admire how you could click “See all previous posts”, notice that an abundance of his posts had been in the Columbia forum, and draw the conclusion that he is or will be attending Columbia University. If there was ever any shroud of doubt surrounding your connections to HBS, I think you just squandered your skeptics with that display of intellectual vitality. </p>

<p>Now Phil from Columbia, seeing as how Wildlfower has exposed you, my personal advice would be to contact the government and undergo the paperwork for a name change as quickly as possible.</p>

<p>By the way, I remembered you had never responded to me in the other 2+2 thread, and I was hoping you would have the time to do that as well.</p>

<p>Like our friend Phil from Columbia (hopefully it won’t be that way for long), I had to face the harsh reality of the italicized sentences, and I was hoping to have made a case powerful enough to stand against that.</p>

<p>I posted it on the other thread, I post it here now.</p>

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<p>You’ll have to excuse me, Roneald. While I appreciate your enthusiasm, I don’t have the time to debate with a high school student. I would advise you, moreover, to listen (read) more and talk (post) less. Your opinion is misinformed by virtue of being young and inexperienced. And while you sound like a smart kid, if I were you I would defer to those who actually know something about the programs being discussed.</p>

<p>No Wildflower, you’ll have to excuse me. </p>

<p>I’m completely sorry. As you have so clearly stated, I am but a misinformed student. Here I was, thinking that was a website where younger people who had interest in colleges and fields of study could go to learn something from the likes of alumni and more experienced adults who had more familiarity with their respective areas of study. Alas, thanks to members like you I have now learned the error of my ways.</p>

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<p>It’s OK, Roneald. You are young and inexperienced. **Graduate **from high school ****and get into college first, then you can start thinking about b-school.</p>

<p>And, for your own good, stop giving an attitude to people who may actually help you down the road. It’s not very smart. But, again, you are young and inexperienced. I am glad you learned about the error of your ways sooner rather than later. Best of luck.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the advice I graduated a month ago and got into Cornell Wharton and Harvard for undergrad. I thought you would’ve used your view old posts weapon to have looked that up already. </p>

<p>So, now that I’ve met your requirements, would you be willing to give me a valid response?</p>

<p>Sorry to re-post, but can someone answer my question?</p>

<p>Hi, I am currently an Econ(Management Science to be exact, it’s listed as Econ: Management Science, it’s a B.S. instead of a B.A for Econ) major entering my second year at UCSD. I was wondering if I would be encouraged to apply to this program.</p>

<p>Also, would being an Economics research assistant hinder my chances at this program?</p>

<p>^^ My personal opinion would be that: After speaking with many of my friends who attend UCSD (my school sends about 20 kids there per year), including a few who majored in your same major, it was very clear that there are two economics degrees; BA in Econ and BS in Econ- Management Science. </p>

<p>The first was considered to be the more traditional Economics major, while the second was referred to by the students and UCSD itself (on numerous pieces of literature including the UC application) as “Business Economics”. </p>

<p>If this is in fact the case, then I think this would be the equivalent of being an undergraduate business major in which case you would most likely be dissuaded from applying to the program.</p>

<p>^Thanks for responding, I switched from Econ to Management science only because the major required harder courses.</p>

<p>Sorry but I haven’t been able to contact a UCSD in the last few yours (left a few fb messages), am I correct in remembering that Management Science was the “Business Econ” one? </p>

<p>Also, if that’s the case you could always stay in the normal Econ major and just take harder classes. Just cause they’re not required doesn’t mean you can’t take them.</p>

<p>I see, but would a B.S. differ much from a B.A.?</p>

<p>I’m not exactly sure if Management Science also known as “Business Econ”</p>

<p>Not really a difference between BS and BA, imo.</p>

<p>Management Science includes courses that are on a business-track, similar to that of Business Econ.</p>

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<p>Great. Now make sure you pass your first semester there. Don’t flunk out. </p>

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<p>Again, quit the attitude. It’s one thing to be young and inexperienced, it’s something else entirely to be young, inexperienced and foolish. </p>

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<p>Get decent grades for a couple years. We can have this discussion then. That said, if you have specific questions by all means post, but if I remember correctly you seemed to want to debate the finer points of 2+2 admissions (about which you know nothing), not to be seeking insight/advice.</p>

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<p>No. Provided you are a junior/rising senior you are encouraged to apply. </p>

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<p>No, it would not.</p>