<p>Harvard or Columbia</p>
<p>you will be beaten if you go to UIUC. Scratch that out.</p>
<p>hahaha, why will i be beaten if i go to UIUC?</p>
<p>not that i'm seriously considering UIUC or anything.</p>
<p>If it's an HBCU experience you want, then I'll add my vote for Spelman. The sciences there are solid. If I am not mistaken, the math/sciences/labs building is nearly new (provided by the generous donation of William and Camille Cosby).</p>
<p>Spelman's rep is very solid. However, stay away from the Morehouse boys.</p>
<p>If you like HBC, you should not throw away 160,000 to go to ivy schools. You dont get fewer opportunities if you go to Spelman. Big corporations make effects to recruit in HBCs.</p>
<p>thanks for the advice, although i'm not sure i can handle the atmosphere of the HBC. not enough diversity and too many male distractions...</p>
<p>Based on your posts, I think you have already made your decision. Rather than thinking of reasons of why not to go to an Ivy, you are thinking of all the negatives of Spelman. I'm not an expert at colleges and all, but here is what I know.</p>
<p>Spelman is a liberal arts school for women, even though Spelman has close ties to Morehouse, men can definitely be avoided if one were to make the effort. Also, HBCU's are diverse, there is diversity amongst black people (sorry if the term "black" offends anyone). You have black people from different geographical regions, black people from the Caribbean, black people of Hispanic origin, black internationals from Europe, and a low percentage of people who are of different ethnicities. </p>
<p>You can't go wrong with either one, and since you have visited, it just depends on what you feel is the best quality of life for you.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you!</p>
<p>well, i actually haven't decided against Spelman. i visited the campus and i absolutely love it (besides the fact that the bathrooms and dorms are gross), but i just want to see the pros and cons of either choice.</p>
<p>youre a premed- go to JHU</p>
<p>Do you get any money from Columbia, Harvard, Washington U, Pomona or Williams? If money is not an issue, the next question is where you want to spend your next 4 years. As the marriage consolers would say, would you be happier with or without your spouse?</p>
<p>Do you want to be with people similar to you in college? Or would you rather have experience with people of different races and life experiences inside and outside the classroom? Chelsea Clinton picked Stanford over Yale because she wanted to be on the west coast. Other chose women colleges or HBCs. Those institutions gave them the change to explore, without the distractions of a coed or mixed environments. I think only you can answer the question and decided where you will be happier.</p>
<p>Good luck in your decision!</p>
<p>Spelman College has formal student exchange programs with the following institutions: </p>
<p>Babson College
Barnard College
Bates College
Bryn Mawr College
Claremont McKenna College
Connecticut College
Dartmouth College
Douglass College
Duke University
Grinnell College
Haverford College
Middlebury College
Mount Holyoke College
Mills College New York University
Occidental College
Ohio Wesleyan University
Pitzer College
Pomona College
Scripps College
Simmons College
Smith College
Stanford University
Tufts University
University of California
San Diego
Washington & Lee University
Wellesley College </p>
<p>You will not have to have your whole experience in atlanta, if it is not what you want.</p>
<p>Don't go to JHU!! Get better grades, a better college experience, and a more prestigious degree at Harvard. Or go to Spelman, which does do very well at placing its graduates.</p>
<p>I think you should go to Spelman. I saw where you stated that you're worried about not getting a good job if you to Spelman, but this isn't something you have to worry about. Spelman is known for placing it's best students in top tier jobs. Not to mention that you got a full ride. And what exactly is wrong with Morehouse boys?:)</p>
<p>Hotpiece, are you coming to prefrosh weekend at Harvard?</p>
<p>dsctt, i loved the morehouse boys. i just don't want to get to distracted...</p>
<p>Hanna, i am not going to the prefrosh weekend. i am going to the WashU multicultural weekend. I signed up for it before i got my harvard decision, so now i am stuck. if i cancel i have to pay for my $800 ticket...</p>
<p>Harvard or Johns Hopkins</p>
<p>barnard is quite integrated with columbia so it might be possible that you could spend a semester at spelman if you went to columbia through barnard's visiting program there.</p>
<p>Williams, as you said, is the top LAC in the country... and even though sciences aren't first and foremost there, you can get a VERY good background in the sciences, while receiving the attention of professors focused on undergrad education, as opposed to research. This means that your average Williams biology professor's first priority is teaching you as opposed to researching for himself... If Williams isn't to your liking, i.e. too small, then I'd go with Harvard.</p>
<p>My personal feelings about your decision is that if money is no complete issue, where you won't have to take out loans exceeding 25K for the 4 years you are there, attend one of the ivies or big name schools.</p>
<p>Why attend Spelman when you can attend Harvard or Williams. Right now you may be planning to go to med school but within college who knows if your interests will change. perhaps med school won't be the decision you want to pursue within the future, and an undergraduate degree from a big name school will always look great even if that's all
you do for your education.</p>
<p>But if you have to take out more than 25K in loans to attend one of the big names, go with the full ride schools.</p>
<p>Interesting. Nobody has mentioned that WashU has the 4th best med school in the US and the 2nd best pre-med program. If you want a truly exceptional pre-med program at a top of the line college with a deserved reputation for treating undergrads right, go to WashU. But if you do, be prepared to work. The pre-med program is tough, though very prestigous.</p>