<p>Wow, never heard of most of those. Where are they?</p>
<p>Also will someone do my reach/match/safety for the prestigious ones.</p>
<p>HYPSM, Cooper Union, Caltech, the other Ivies.</p>
<p>Godfather, you need to do some homework. </p>
<p>The top Liberal Arts Colleges offer excellent academics, on par with Ivies & top publics. The absence of grad students = wealth of research opps for undergrads. </p>
<p>Get a good comprehensive college guide and start looking them up.</p>
<p>I have been doing homework, and I need to do more.</p>
<p>I wasn't asking about those colleges because that's all I want is prestige. I was just asking because that would measure my potential of being accepted at other places.</p>
<p>I'd actually rather go to an LAC.</p>
<p>Maybe take the top LACs and do the reach/match/safety thing if you don't want to do the Ivies.</p>
<p>By the way, forgot to thank you for all the help.</p>
<p>Rice, although it is a little more competitive for in-state kids. Another plug for Loyola of NO, it may be a great safety for you. I know several practicing physicians who did their undergrad there, and I know a young man who is a semiserious guitarist who went there because of musical opportunities. It will be a while before NOLA is up and running, but I think they will be able to enter a class next year.</p>
<p>Reachy LACS would be the creme de la creme LACs:
Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore, Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Bowdoin, Haverford, Middlebury, Carleton, Wesleyan, Vassar These schools are very popular and highly selective but not quite as selective as HYPS.</p>
<p>Next tier slightly down but still excellent:
Grinnell, Kenyon, Macalester, Trinity, Hamilton (midwestern loc not generally as popular as NE) Women's Colleges (Smith, Bryn Mawr, Holyoke)</p>
<p>Next tier slightly down:
Bucknell, Lafayette, Gettysburg, Skidmore, Conn College, Denison</p>
<p>Next tier:</p>
<p>Wheaton, Clark, Drew, etc</p>
<p>I am leaving many schools out but this is a basic idea. You can look on the US News list and, assuming you have 'HYPS qualified' stats, then roughly the reachiest are the top 15 or so, 15-35 = matchy, 35-60 = safer. Or thereabouts.</p>
<p>A better way to find the school for you is to figure out what qualities you are lkooking for in a school and then find schools at diverse slectivity levels that offer these qualities. For example, if there is a certain Ivy that appeals to you not just because it is an Ivy but because of the atmosphere & tone, then we could be more helpful in suggesting safer versions of that sort of place.</p>
<p>BTW I didn't quite get that you are only a junior. You are actually way ahead of the curve.</p>
<p>Also-- re your concern about size: many of the LACs are 1200-1500 and they top out about 3000. But think of it this way, it is a whole school full of people like you. When my daughter thought about it she realized all her classes were with the same 100 kids even in a school of 3000.</p>
<p>is Brown really that cold?</p>
<p>It can get cold and wet in Providence--probably not quite as cold as Boston and definitely less cold than Minnesota or central Vermont-NewHampshire, Maine, Chicago. But you'll need hat, mittens, boots frequently December to Mid-March. The other months are generally not too bad, but fairly rainy in Fall and early Spring.</p>
<p>If you are not offered admission to U of Texas-Austin, you may want to go ahead and enroll at UT-Arlington with plans to transfer to Austin later. I understand that many, many UTA successfuly pursue that option. Apparently, UTA is considered a stepping stone to Austin by much of the UTA student body.</p>
<p>I've seen UTA before, most disgusting campus I've ever seen in my life.</p>
<p>I think these LACs sound wonderful thet way people describe them around here.</p>
<p>Let me take a different tack. First find your safety, then move from there. The safety is important because it will get you to focus on what it is you want, where you are willing to go, and because picking a good safety means you have out researched your peers in finding a high quality school that hasn't the application competition of more prestigious schools.</p>
<p>Your safety should match your academic talents, your personal interests and your financial situation. One way to examine schools is to look at where their graduates have gone. Are they working in their field, are they accepted at decent graduate and professional schools?</p>
<p>Small school vs. Big School. How far from home, will travel be an issue, do you mind spending some holidays away from home, because the travel is expensive or unavailable given time constraints (thanksgiving four days) and weather conditions (airports get closed sometimes in the winter)? You mentioned music..what is availible on or directly off campus. Sometimes schools will tell you they are just outside of a major city, but the students find it to be a major inconvienence to get in and out.</p>
<p>Talk with some people who have jobs that you might like...ask them where they went and what was good, bad and ugly about their experience. Make a list....prioritize it, apply it.</p>
<p>You have decent scores and so there are a hundred+ great schools available to you. Out of state Public Universities may not be a good match for you because the out of state tuition doesn't justify the crowded classes and challenge of getting through in four years.</p>
<p>So far I think the safety I'm considering is Case Western. Great school, don't know how the heck their acceptance rate is 69%. Correct me if you don't think that's a safety.</p>
<p>Since then I've started the idea of LACs as you can see. Don't know anything much about them though. I just want to stay away from professors that are there for research, rather than teaching. And I want to severely minimize the number of lecture halls I sit in.</p>
<p>Any other thoughts for me?</p>
<p>bumpity bump bump</p>
<p>SBMOm......Wheaton (Mass.) is not a fourth tier LAC......2nd....</p>
<p>4th tier LAC's aren't on the junior year college exchange with Williams, Amherst, Smith and Dartmouth like Wheaton is.</p>
<p>So will anyone like list out some LACs that would be nice for me, and say reach, match or safety?</p>
<p>hello????????</p>