Help Finding Schools for Junior DD Just Beginning Search

Hello everyone. I’m new to this site, however I have been lurking for a while, and finally decided to bite the bullet and make an account. I hope I include all the information relevant to helping find some schools for my daughter. She’s my first, so this an entirely new process for my husband and I. She has been researching some schools on her own as well, so hopefully with her list and any suggestions that you folks come up with, we’ll be able to find some schools that would be a good fit for her.

DD is a junior at a large, public HS in Illinois. It’s not top-notch, but it’s not bad either, and a couple kids each year get into Northwestern, UChicago, and a good size of kids go to UIUC every year. As far as her involvement goes, she has worked part-time at a retail store for a about a year, has volunteered at our local hospital since she was a freshman in HS, and had volunteered at our local historical museum since she was 12. She was on the girls varsity soccer team her freshman and sophomore year, and has every intention of continuing soccer for her remaining two years of HS. At school she is a member of Student Council (has been since she was a freshman) and is also a member of Science Club, again, this is her third year within the club, and this year she was elected vice-president.

She took the ACT this September and received a 32. She will be retaking it at the end of the year. Unweighted GPA is a 3.86, she is in the top 10% of her class though I cannot remember her exact rank. Most AP Classes at her school aren’t available until Junior/Senior, so the only ones she was able to take so far are APUSH, which she received a 5 on, and AP Human Geography, which she received a 4 on. This year she is taking AP English Language, AP Biology, AP Calc BC, and AP Psychology. Next year she plans on taking AP Chemistry, AP Physics, AP Stats, AP English Literature, and AP European History. She is currently in her fourth year of German, which she will continue into senior year. It’s a heavy courseload, but DD excels at math and science and has a real love for history.

Though she does have a certain love for history, DD’s real passion is medicine and has always wanted to become a pediatric surgeon, and her desire to follow this path has only strengthened as she begins her college search. Obviously it’s a very hard path and it could change as she begins her studies, but for now, this is what she is set on, though she realizes that she is not hard and fast dedicated to this.

At my request she will be touring one large school, one medium school, and one small school, though I think she would really prefer a small, LAC type environment, or a more medium-sized school. She doesn’t want a heavy Greek presence and she really enjoys having close relationships with her teachers, and while I know this can be fostered at any school, smaller class sizes are preferable. She adores snow so a four seasons state is probably one of the only absolute requirements, besides having a strong science department that will give her a good pre-med track. She would prefer the Midwest, but this is not a necessity for her as she will have a car, so parking for freshman is a necessity. She is close to her younger siblings and would like to visit them, but she is very willing to look at schools outside of our region. She wants a campus feel and a “close” campus community, so urban probably wouldn’t be the best fit.

We are comfortable with $46k. DD is aware of this number. She is also aware that she can look at schools outside of that number, but that if she decided to attend, funds will be taken from elsewhere, such as money we have set aside for things like study abroad, grad school, etc. She really likes the idea of study abroad (so also a school with a good study abroad program?) so I doubt that she herself will be looking at schools much outside of this number, so preferably in this range.

I did use the Supermatch function and got a preliminary list of schools, but just wanted to see if there were any I am missing or anything else that you would recommend for her based on your knowledge and that would fit for a pre-med kid with a love for history.

I know this is long, but I greatly appreciate any advice you can provide!

I’m assuming that if you can afford 46K per year that you don’t qualify for need based aid and are looking for merit to bring your cost down?
Not a comprehensive list by any means but there are lots of great LACs in your neck of the woods to explore- Knox, Beloit, Lawrence, Grinnell, Carleton, Macalester, Kalamazoo, Wooster, Kenyon, Oberlin. One or the other of Macalester or Carleton gives some merit scholarships and the other doesn’t, can’t remember which is which. She would likely get more or less merit aid at a lot of the others. I know the most about Lawrence because my D is there, she has close relationships with lots of her professors and almost all of her classes are small. Strong in the sciences and your D would likely get a nice scholarship package there. You’ll have to research the parking at these schools, at Lawrence it is lottery based. Lovely campus adjacent to the cute downtown that has quite a few nice restaurants and shops to explore. Lots of students there do study abroad. One thing to look at, I know this is true for Lawrence and may be at other schools, merit aid is not given during a term when the student is studying abroad, so you just need to be aware of that when projecting costs for the full 4 years.
Case Western in Cleveland is very strong in STEM, contained campus in an interesting part of Cleveland but very urban.
University of Rochester might be worth a look also, not as big a town as Cleveland and both CWRU and URochester might offer your D some merit.
There are others, I’m sure other posters will have some recommendations!

Sounds like you’re doing the right thing here. A lot of kids think they’d be alright with anything, then later find out they have definite preferences.

I would suggest that she try to do this while school is in session, even if she has to take an occasional day off from HS to visit. Having the students in place really gives a better feel for what a college is like compared to walking around and looking at the grounds. Also it gives her a chance to informally strike up a few conversations while walking around to ask students what they like/dislike. Some things may of course be particular to that school, but some answers can help her get a student perspective on the genre.

I would also suggest trying to throw urban/suburban/rural into the mix, although I see you say she’s leaning against urban so perhaps skip that variant.

Some schools run their own program, but many partner with other colleges or even independent groups that do the arranging for colleges. The key to look for is how well they integrate the overseas classes with their curriculum. For some majors such as engineering this can be difficult unless it is that college’s own program, but for many majors this isn’t a big hurdle. The issue for her is going to be timing. If she wants to go right to med school after college, many kids spend the 2nd half of junior year getting ready for the MCAT and then start their apps summer before senior year. If she wants to spend junior year abroad and then travel the summer after this could be a conflict

One other consideration for a premed. You need to find out if the colleges you are considering offer a committee letter for med school applicants. If they do, med schools are going to expect to see one pr they assume the kid is hiding something. So it is important to find out if they screen applicants and only write favorable letters for their better kids. You see colleges that aren’t that hard to get into boast amazing med school stats (in the neighborhood of 90%) and it turns out that’s what they do, Holy Cross being one prominent example.

There is some good info on the web about the med school prep and application process. Since her goal is med school its worth reading thru this now so it can inform what she is looking for in a college. 2 good ones are a .pdf at https://www.rhodes.edu/content/health-professions-advising-hpa and also https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/careers/gradstudy/health/guide

Macalester has merit scholarships.

Carleton only gives $2K per year to NMF, no other merit. I’d consider Dickinson. St. Olaf is another possibility.

Thank you all so much for the great suggestions so far. To answer a previous question, we will not qualify for need-based aid. Merit aid would be nice, but if a school she is looking at is within the $46k budget it isn’t a necessity. Touring is a priority and something that we expect the spend the majority of her junior year doing. And thanks to the previous poster for the information concerning committee letters. I will definitely have DD look into that.

Have you tried running the Net Price Calculators on the financial aid websites for the colleges on your preliminary list?

You mention Northwestern as a destination for some students from your daughter’s high school. Here is the cost for a family that will be paying the full amount:

"The cost of attendance for the 2016-2017 academic year for students in university housing or off-campus apartments:

Tuition: $50,424
Fees (Health $200, ASG $180, Athletic $51): $431
Room & Board: $15,489
Books & Supplies: $1,620
Personal Expenses: $2,532
Transportation: varies
Total: $70,496"