<p>Hi Everyone,
I was just looking for some help and advice with regards to studying in the US. So basically, im 23 years old and already hold a degree from a UK university. I didnt do as well as I would have liked so I am thinking of doing another degree in the USA (My top schools being ASU, USD, UCSD). </p>
<p>Does anyone know of problems I could face in looking to do another degree? Will I have any trouble getting an F1 visa as I have already studied previously? </p>
<p>Obtaining a second bachelors degree - Not all schools will admit applicants. Check out the individual school's details. The problem here is whether the school will admit you, once you get the I-20 form from the school certifying you will be a student, you can get a F-1 visa no problemo.</p>
<p>Or are you talking about pursuing graduate school? MBA, JD (law degree), MD (doctors degree)? Please clarify.</p>
<p>Thanks for your response Fiona. I am looking to do a second undergraduate degree as my GPA was terrible on my first one. I fell ill and had other personal problems....it was a miracle I made it through to Graduation.</p>
<p>I am aware some schools wont accept a second undergrad degree....to be honest I was thinking of just not declaring it and applying as a freshman. Is there any way they could find out I wasnt being truthful? It just seems like the most uncomplicated thing to do...</p>
<p>Can you afford to pay full price? If yes, many private colleges will be happy to have you no matter what your GPA and you won't have to lie. Forget UCSD though.</p>
<p>I can afford a private school but to be honest, I would prefer not to go to one of them becasue of the extreme cost!! I was leaning towards ArizonaSU, SDSU etc. If I were to attend SDSU, how easy would it be to transfer to UCSD. I ask because I really want to attend a T1 school and I think SDSU is T4, however I have heard of people attending SDSU then transferring to a UC. </p>
<p>Frank, you mention accounting for the period of time between High school graduation and attending College, how thorough would the university be in checking an applicants background. I.e- would it be possible to 'invent' some thing to cover that time period?</p>
<p>Skippy, SDSU and all the CSU's are in a state of crisis. They are moving towards only serving local kids much less internationals. If you attended a US school you're in the system and lying and being caught would result in being kicked out and having any degree revoked. Lying is a very bad idea.</p>
<p>Hmom, I think your right. I really dont like the idea of lying at all and I know it would lead to real problems further down the line. </p>
<p>Could you elabourate about CSU schools being in a state of crisis? I talked to one woman at SDSU who said they were looking to diversify but im guessing you have local knowledge that I dont.....</p>
<p>The CA budget crisis is causing state schools to accept fewer students to cut down on the number served. My nephew is also seeking a second bachelors and was told CSU's will not allow them anymore nor will most UC schools.</p>
<p>So I guess im best staying away from UC and Cal State schools...does anyone know of schools in Califronia which would accept a student who had done badly in a previous undergrad but had good SAT's/ work experience etc? </p>
<p>I am now thinking of USC, Pepperdine and ASU. Please help with any more schools or advice! </p>
<p>Hmom5, thanks for being so helpful!!! Its a relief to see that there are schools in CA which outside of the major UC's etc. </p>
<p>Could you give me more information on any of the schools? I looked them up online and they all look pretty good, although I have never heard of them before. This is probably becasue I am an international but are they well regarded colleges? And how much would the tuition for each of the schools be, their websites stated around $30,000....would that include housing and food etc?</p>
<p>To better phrase my question, would tuiton include room and board? I.e- some universitys state tuition is $30,000.....would this include accomodation and meals or would I then have to add on those things to reach the total cost of attending the university</p>
<p>You could use the Collegeboard search engine. Here's the website for Whittier: College</a> Search - Whittier College - Cost & Financial Aid
Click on Cost and Financial Aid. For this school, the tuition only is 32,270 USD. However, there are additional costs of room and board, books, etc which are listed below (Room & Board 9050 USD, etc) which you have to add on to the tuition to find the total costs.</p>
<p>I looked up Whittier and it looks to be about $40,000 with room and board. I would think the others would be about the same. While none of them would be considered top colleges, they are solid and respectable. Whittier has a Presidential library as Richard Nixon attended.?</p>
<p>Is CA the only place that interests you? Other states would have cheaper options.</p>
<p>Wow, 40k+ is pretty expensive to be honest.....CA really appeals becasue I would love the option of going to the beach at weekends etc. I also like the lifestyle there and the weather is a huge bonus! </p>
<p>I have considered schools in AZ and have been attracted to ASU. It is cheaper and seems to be around $30k.....perhaps less for the year. </p>
<p>I find myself at a crossroads....I want to pursue further study and do so in the USA, but the sheer cost of it is pretty daunting. I would prefer to avoid loans etc but paying for everything myslef would pretty much clean me out.</p>
<p>A second bachelors in the US is a major luxury. Do you have the option of doing this in the UK? It would make much more sense to save the US for a grad degree when you might get funding. </p>
<p>$30K is probably close to minimum, even a CSU costs that for internationals. I think SUNY schools cost a bit less, but no beach.</p>
<p>It's important to not do this in hopes of staying in the US. Frankly, none of the schools here would give you the kind of degree where an employer is likely to sponsor you.</p>
<p>hmom5, I do have the option of doing another degree in the UK and I think I will do this via distance learning in my spare time. I spent last night weighing up my options and at 24 years old....I dont think I can afford to spend 3-4 years studying all over again. I have to factor in loss of earnings etc and unfortunately I dont think I can really afford to give that up.</p>
<p>One thing I have been thinking about however was studying in the UK for a second undergraduate then attending college in the USA for an MA/MBA in the USA. I am aware that these are also ex*****ve but the loss of earnings I would incur would be lesser, provided I am taking graduate study at 27 or so. </p>
<p>DO you have any idea how schools in the USA would view me doing well in a second undergrad even though I didnt do well in the first? And would doing an MA at a T1 school be a good way of getting sponsored for a H1?</p>
<p>I have never heard of anyone getting a full second bachelors so I can't help there. I do hire lots of MBAs and can tell you that you would have a chance at sponsorship if you can position yourself well as a grad from a top business school with some unusual skills. Keep in mind no visa is a sure thing, even with an employer willing to sponsor you it's a lottery and many more want the visas then can get them. Getting into a top US business school is also very difficult, requiring top grades, high scores and impressive work experience, so you would have to weigh all these issues.</p>