Help: Going to Beijing!

<p>i’m currently applying to study abroad in fall 2005 at peking university, with a possibility to include a language immersion program in summer 2005 through either beijing normal university or east china normal university. i’m an american citizen with chinese ancestry, but i’ve never been to asia. </p>

<p>a couple of concerns have been brought up, and i’m not too familiar with them. could you please enlighten me? thanks.</p>

<li><p>how bad is capital punishment in china? is it possible that they could falsely accuse me of a crime and execute me without fair trial? (sounds extreme, but it’s in the newspapers sometimes). </p></li>
<li><p>how safe is it in beijing?</p></li>
<li><p>health concerns… chances of contracting something along the lines of SARS, perhaps a form of avian flu, etc.? a friend who studied abroad said they weren’t given many health warnings while in china when at the same time, these health warnings were cited in the USA. </p></li>
<li><p>would studying in china hurt me during background checks for government jobs? (i’m an american citizen)</p></li>
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<p>anything else that i should be aware of? </p>

<p>finally, awkward question, but someone said that if i go to china, some girls will try to go after me because i’m an american citizen. true? </p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>haha i'm not chinese so i dont know anything about the university, but concerning your last question-- i went to china w/ my dad this summer, and when we came back, all the chinese women we knew were like "OMG! (your mom) should NEVER have let him go without her! (for the same reason you stated above)". so, although i'm absolutely no expert, i have heard the same claim from many chinese women, so i guess there must be some truth behind it. however, it definitely did not apply to us.</p>

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<li>how bad is capital punishment in china? is it possible that they could falsely accuse me of a crime and execute me without fair trial? (sounds extreme, but it's in the newspapers sometimes)</li>
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<p>That's not true... Capital punishment is only carried out if you have committed a serious offence such as murder, corruption, drug traffiking... And please do not go around spreading democracy once you are in China because that will often annoy people...</p>

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<li>how safe is it in beijing?</li>
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<p>Beijing is as safe as NYC... Just bring along some common sense and avoid dark corners, alleys, always travel in groups and you will be fine.</p>

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<li>health concerns... chances of contracting something along the lines of SARS, perhaps a form of avian flu, etc.? a friend who studied abroad said they weren't given many health warnings while in china when at the same time, these health warnings were cited in the USA.</li>
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<p>True.. Better to be safe than sorry, get a avian flu jab before you leave for China...</p>

<p>Yeah... and I second unelerusauvage.. hehe.. but well, isnt it great that girls are going after you??? :)</p>

<p>lol... dont be so paranoid, mate.
i dont know about china, but i've lived in india for the past 19 years, and well asia is not as bad as you believe it is. there is no higher chance of contracting SARS or something in asia than in the US. But yes, be careful where you get drinking water from!
capital punishment - people aren't really looney to hang you without you having done anything, so dont worry.
girls concern - maybe!</p>

<p>you only need to worry about capital punishment if you plan to go to singapore and vandalise a car or drug traffic.</p>

<p>get your facts right mate the guy who vandalised the car wasn't hanged.</p>

<p>course not he was caned.</p>

<p>a mad hard caning though</p>

<p>and despite the deterrent that he knew about he still did the things he did. shows his disregard of the law doesn't it?</p>

<p>plus when he went back to the states he was arrested for drug-related offences.</p>

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<li>how bad is capital punishment in china? is it possible that they could falsely accuse me of a crime and execute me without fair trial? (sounds extreme, but it's in the newspapers sometimes). </li>
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<p>Haha don't worry. As long as you don't go around publicly denouncing the government and yelling "W Forever" then you're Ok. It's really not that bad, I'm not even Chinese, and they treated me well.</p>

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<li>how safe is it in beijing?</li>
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<p>Like any other major city, don't do anything stupid.</p>

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<li>health concerns... chances of contracting something along the lines of SARS, perhaps a form of avian flu, etc.? a friend who studied abroad said they weren't given many health warnings while in china when at the same time, these health warnings were cited in the USA. </li>
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<p>Don't worry too much, often it's simply propaganda. Don't eat food from random vendors/ small stores, and wash often. Basic hygiene.</p>

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<li>would studying in china hurt me during background checks for government jobs? (i'm an american citizen)</li>
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<p>NO! It's a good thing to have worked abroad. Unless you're a dirty commie!!! JK</p>

<p>anything else that i should be aware of? </p>

<p>Have fun, it's a great place, buy lots of fake crap, it isn't illegal don't worry. But never follow those people on the street who come up to you and show you these little cards with pictures of goods on them. They take you to shady corners. Just go to the well-known tourist markets that even the locals shop at. Cheap "designer" goodies!</p>

<p>finally, awkward question, but someone said that if i go to china, some girls will try to go after me because i'm an american citizen. true? </p>

<p>YEP but not like every minute of course. I have a white friend who used to live in Japan. He visited China, and one day as he was getting into a cab, some random guy came up, took a picture with him, threw him back in the cab. LOL.</p>

<p>haha. i can assure you that beijing's NOT nearly as bad as you think.
sorry, i know that you are just being cautious and it's hard not to be considering how china's portrayed by media most of the time.
i still find your some of your questions almost offensive..and sorta funny at the same time
though i haven't been back recently, i was there for 12 yrs. and i'll see what i can do i guess</p>

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<li>how bad is capital punishment in china? is it possible that they could falsely accuse me of a crime and execute me without fair trial? (sounds extreme, but it's in the newspapers sometimes). </li>
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<p>it's possible that you could be falsely accused and executed anywhere without a fair trial, even in the states. and beijing's not currently undergoing any sorts of 'reign of terror' that i'm aware of. so just use your common sense, stay out of trouble, and you'll be fine. </p>

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<li>how safe is it in beijing?</li>
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<p>well, it's safe if you are careful enough. i don't think it's any more dangerous than any major US cities. but the fact that you are a foreigner might attract some extra unwanted attention. but of course, like already said, it's better to be more careful than not.</p>

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<li>health concerns... chances of contracting something along the lines of SARS, perhaps a form of avian flu, etc.? a friend who studied abroad said they weren't given many health warnings while in china when at the same time, these health warnings were cited in the USA. </li>
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<p>i'm not so sure since i was natively born there. but chill man.. i really don't think you should be worried about SARS..now in 2005/6.
i don't think it'd hurt if you get some vaccines before you go though..just to be safe. it really depends on the person's own immune system. just like traveling to europe, some ppl get sick some don't.</p>

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<li>would studying in china hurt me during background checks for government jobs? (i'm an american citizen)</li>
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<p>why would it? wouldn't it enhance and enrich your background and experience more than anything? if it'll be held against you, i don't see how any govt officials can get any first-hand information about any countries fundamentally politcally different from the US. and if you are looking forward to grad school, i seriously don't see how it's going to hurt your application.</p>

<p>anything else that i should be aware of? </p>

<p>finally, awkward question, but someone said that if i go to china, some girls will try to go after me because i'm an american citizen. true? </p>

<p>i don't think it's that bad..i'd surely hope not. but lol yea, wouldn't that just enhance your experience if anything? </p>

<p>k. best of luck. just use your common sense and you'll be fine. and yes, it's good to always be more careful than less. but overall, i think you'll love the experience. enjoy</p>

<p>Iv never got sick in China. Just avoid drinking the tap water. Bottled water or boiled is fine. Street vendors can be iffy. But it is fun eating at them though. I find food from street vendors so much better than in those 5 star hotels. As for safety it is pretty safe. I think Beijing is safer than NYC. The chance of you getting robbed or murdered (lol) is very very low. What can happen is you get conned. Say you want to buy a souvenir and the vendor plays you because he can tell that you are from aboard. Finally do girls chase you? Really depends on where. Doubt it in a big city like Beijing. People will be interested in you of course. Maybe a thing or two can progress from there. I wouldnt know since the only times iv been in Beijing was with my cousin. I guess ppl just assumed that she was my gf.</p>

<p>Finally try to act Chinese. Foreigners have to pay more money to go sight seeing. Lots of things to see in Beijing. The Forbidden City, Great Wall...so much. Also go eat some Peking duck. I never thought it was that great but you can at least say you tried it :) Have fun! Im going to Nanjing where I was born over the summer.</p>

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<p>thats gonna help A LOT</p>

<p>ps, its not what it sounds like!</p>

<p>and besides, dont avoid those little roadside carts for a meal or two. thats basically the whole point of visiting another country; experiencing it like a native!! </p>

<p>this comes from experience, i went to school in shanghai during freshman (HS) year.. SMIC PRIVATE SCHOOL REPPIN</p>

<p>and the thing about the girls.. it solely depends on your skin color and wallet size. sorry to say this but chinese girls are gold diggers.. (well, might not be such a bad thing!! if you know what i mean..)</p>

<p>As an American who has been to China (albeit not for an extended stay):</p>

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<li><p>It seems like Chinese officials are more lenient towards foreigners than they are to Chinese nationals. As an American citizen, you will be treated very well. I really don't think you have to worry about capital punihsment, unless you plan on committing some particularly heinous crime while you are there.</p></li>
<li><p>I have also heard that China is very safe. Although I spent my time there as a tourist, I hear that crime rates are very low, and that especially harsh punishments are given to those who harass foreigners (as the Chinese government wants to encourage tourism and the revenue it generates). Still, exercise caution as you would in any other large city.</p></li>
<li><p>Don't drink the water and pay attention to health advisories.</p></li>
<li><p>I don't think so, but I really don't know.</p></li>
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<p>Your final question- I don't know, but I can tell you that my dad's company does a lot of business in China and many of his coworkers have returned from extended business trips with new wives, so it does happen.</p>

<p>Other advice- don't let the street vendors know you are an American- they won't listen to you when you tell them you don't want what they are selling, and they won't believe you if you tell them that you don't have enough money on you (since, after all, you are a rich American...)</p>

<p>yeah, haggle EVERYTHING... even at supermarkets where the prices are set.. trust me on this one</p>

<p>also for #4, i think it will. many of my friends in shanghai (american citizens) cant apply to George Washington U or georgetown because its in DC. (too sensitive)</p>

<p>LOL thanks for all the advice and insight!</p>

<p>another friend tells me that once i get there, i'll be like "why was i worrying all along?"</p>

<p>yeah, that was my reaction upon entering shanghai</p>

<p>besides, beida is a world-class university. everyone innately respects people who go there</p>

<p>just say "i go to beida" if you get in any trouble</p>

<p>haha, where did u get all these news ? it is so funny!
firstly, i HAVE to say, Peking is safe.everywhere has crime,right?
how safe is Beijing? well, if you are careful just as you are in NYC, no one will hurt you.
i have no ideas about whether studying in china will hurt you during background checks for government jobs. whereas , there's no doubt that your experiense in China, especially in PKU,which is Chinese Harvard,will help you with your future enterprise .
and the last thing is about the girls. well, i am not sure about that.frankly speaking, i never did that before and never saw other girls do it.but, it is hard to say. everyone is different.</p>

<p>since you are on the way to apply one of the best universities in China ,why not try it?it is an oppotunity to study and live the most brilliant guys in our country.i dare say you will consider this to be one of most smartest decisions you have ever made.
so ,go ahead with your application .one day,u will find urself fall in love with PKU , its ppl and our country's amazing culture.</p>

<p>GOOD LUCK! :)</p>

<p>As a Canadian-born Chinese who lived for half a year in Beijing and has been living in Shanghai for over seven years, I might be able to offer a few pointers to you.</p>

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<li>how bad is capital punishment in china? is it possible that they could falsely accuse me of a crime and execute me without fair trial? (sounds extreme, but it's in the newspapers sometimes).</li>
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<p>Like everyone has said thus far, just behave with common sense when you're living in China. If you are an American citizen and you do commit a serious crime, you will most likely serve a couple nights in a local holding cell before being extradited to the United States (if the Embassy and your family can work quickly to get the paperwork done). Although I cannot speak from personal experience, I'd say from observation that Chinese officials tend to be more lenient towards foreigners (in fact, there seems to be a direct correlation between the general level of treatment and one's skin color). I believe that most capital punishment cases and executions occur to political prisoners, so unless you go out in the middle of Tiananmen Square and lead a protest in favor of the F**** G*** and other religious sects/cults recognized by the state as extremism, you should be fine. Bottom line, act sensibly.</p>

<p>Oh, and don't bring banned books/movies into the country. I read an article the other day about an Australian diplomat who was frisked and detained because she brought with her a censored book which covered politically sensitive issues regarding the PRC's history. Although the list is probably endless, some major names that pop into my mind are the movie "To Live" (starring Gong Li), Jan Wong's "Red China Blues" (Great book, btw, about a Canadian-born Chinese who studied at PKU during the Cultural Revolution and actually served as a Maoist Red Guard), and any live news footage or published material covering the Tiananmen Square Massacre (i.e. don't wear a t-shirt emblazoned with the now-famous image of the young studnet protestor standing defiantly in front of PLA tanks).</p>

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<li>how safe is it in beijing?</li>
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<p>Avoid dark alleys, side streets, etc. If you've never visited Beijing, I'd avoid taking taxis at night, especially since you will be very unfamiliar with the layout of the city during your first few months. Local taxi drivers love to swindle foreigners, including foreigners of Chinese descent, by either leading to you to the wrong destination or driving you in cricles. BTW, you will stick out like a sore thumb in the local population if you don't speak Chinese; even Chinese speakers who have been living abroad stick out because the local dialect is very distinct. You may think you speak impeccable Chinese, but any perceptive local will figure you for a person from the South, Hong Kong, Taiwan, or even Singapore if you don't speak Pekingese. In general, though, most locals are relatively courteous towards Chinese-looking foreigners (they might stare at you if you're white). As you learn the language, try to pick up some conversations with the local taxi drivers - they love to chat it up with their passengers.</p>

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<li>health concerns... chances of contracting something along the lines of SARS, perhaps a form of avian flu, etc.? a friend who studied abroad said they weren't given many health warnings while in china when at the same time, these health warnings were cited in the USA.</li>
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<p>Sometimes I feel that the health warnings issued abroad regarding pandemic-potential illnesses originating from China are designed to create undue hysteria. Unless you sleep in a chicken coop, breathing in the fumes released by chicken dung, eat raw chickens and chicken eggs, or expose yourself to chicken blood, you are not likely to contract avian flu anytime soon. During the SARS scare, many foreigners, caught up in all the paranoia, fled the country, taking the first flight out and temporarily leaving their overseas lives behind until the craze died out. My school, in fact, ended an entire month early because a portion of the student population had suddenly disappeared. I remained in Shanghai and didn't worry about much. About the most extreme measure I took to "defend" myself against SARS was wear surgical-like masks when frequenting public areas with large crowds. All in all, take the same health precautions you would if you were back home. Don't drink the tap water in China - go bottled or boiled. Your best defense against SARS, H5N1, what have you, is washing your hands thoroughly with soap.</p>

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<li>would studying in china hurt me during background checks for government jobs? (i'm an american citizen)</li>
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<p>I doubt it, unless your experiences at Peking University lead you to develop fervent anti-Taiwan, pro-One China policy views. Then you might run into some trouble. </p>

<p>As for one of the poster's claims that his american friends in Shanghai couldn't apply to George Washington University or Georgetown because those schools are located in DC, that's a bunch of baloney. I live in Shanghai and two students from my school have already applied and been accepted Early Action to Georgetown.</p>

<p>anything else that i should be aware of?</p>

<p>If you want to go shopping for pirated goods at the well-known counterfeit markets (San Li Tun, Russian Market, Silk Market, etc. - these I remember from a few years back), try to go with Chinese friends who can help you out with the bargaining. Otherwise you'll be cleaned out by the outrageous prices that the clothing vendors charge to green foreigners.</p>

<p>finally, awkward question, but someone said that if i go to china, some girls will try to go after me because i'm an american citizen. true?</p>

<p>Perhaps. This myth is probably truer for white American citizens than for Asian American citizens. I will say this, though: Do not be surprised if you see many mixed couples in Beijing. And by mixed couples I mean considerably older white men with considerably younger Chinese women. (This may seem stereotypical but the generalization does hold up upon closer observation.)</p>

<p>I hope that my advice helps. Have fun in China!</p>

<p>ok fine, it was only george washington</p>

<p>wanted to make it more dramatic</p>

<p>well, the george washington part is true!! i swear!!</p>