<p>A little late ..... does anyone have any suggestions for BA programs that require no audition for acting or musical theater in NYC? I have been searching and have no had success with this. D would like to study acting with a liberal arts background hoping to audition in sophomore year. At this point, the schools would have to be rolling too.</p>
<p>Any help or suggestions would be appreciated :)</p>
<p>Not exactly NYC, not exactly a BA program, but maybe she could start here and transfer:
[Performing</a> Arts](<a href=“http://www.bergen.edu/pages1/Pages/5137.aspx]Performing”>http://www.bergen.edu/pages1/Pages/5137.aspx)</p>
<p>CUNY - Queens College says they are still accepting applications on a “space available” basis. I would take a good look at their website - they are greatly improving their residential life.</p>
<p>Any luck with Hofstra?</p>
<p>Have you considered SUNY - purchase – 20 miles north of NYC, has liberal arts and performing arts.</p>
<p>Take a look at Fordham @ Rose Hill. Join the Mimes & Mummers as a freshman. You will be amazed at the doors that can open for you.</p>
<p>Thank you Levirm :)</p>
<p>emmybet, thankyou too 
D just received acceptance to Queens College Saturday
Hofstra is audition based too. I’m not sure if that will help as she was accepted academically to two school in NYC. She really wants NYC and if she doesn’t get in artistically, she might decide to take a year off or, just attend taking the liberal arts classes with the hopes to re-audition. One school allows students to audition in 2nd semester, the other school allows after one year is completed. Thanks for the advice :)</p>
<p>kayf - thank you too D will be auditioning there on Feb. 20th with a smile :)</p>
<p>glido - thank you too D just auditioned to Fordham LC , she awaits with nerves. :)</p>
<p>Congratulations to your daughter on her acceptances, maggie, and good luck!</p>
<p>maggie3 -</p>
<p>Have you asked this in the Theater/Drama and Musical Theater majors sub-forums? They are inside the College Majors Forum. [College</a> Majors - College Confidential](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-majors/]College”>College Majors - College Confidential Forums)</p>
<p>maggie, while it is too late for this advice, I think your D ought not to have focused just on schools in NYC but to find the best program she could get into. My own kid did go to school in NYC (NYU/Tisch) and there were some benefits to that but it is not imperative to be in NYC while in college as graduates in this field move there after earning their degree.</p>
<p>I suggest you look to see if Hofstra (which is rolling admissions) still takes applications because there is no audition to be admitted. After two years, you can audition for the BFA in Acting. They also have a Musical Theater Minor (that is not too common).</p>
<p>(as you are aware, the suggestions of Fordham and SUNY Purchase are not applicable as both are by audition, and in fact, SUNY Purchase is extremely difficult to get in for the BFA in Acting)</p>
<p>If it were my child, I would not have them attend one of the BA schools they got into academically but not artistically with the hopes to re-audition into the program down the line as the chance of getting in that way is very low. I think it would be FAR better, if not admitted to a BFA audition based program, to then attend a BA Theater (performance based program or track) that is non-audition and where your child will truly be in a theater program rather than studying some other subject at a college where they can’t be admitted into the theater program. Also, a school with a non-audition theater major allows the students in that program to be THE theater program at the college, as opposed to playing second fiddle to the audition based program that they are not admitted to. There are many fine non-audition BA Theater programs. I think if your D is shut out of a school to study theater (not an academic acceptance without the theater program), it is better to take a gap year and re-group with a new college list and more training under her belt. Is she truly going to be satisfied attending one of these schools for a different major and hoping to then get into that school’s theater major after some time, when the program didn’t take her originally? And in the meantime, her skill set won’t improve as she won’t be training as she’ll be in another major.</p>
<p>PS, you wrote that Hofstra is audition based, but that is not true for freshmen admissions. One of my current seniors has an admission there (she is trying also for audition based programs). The audition for the BFA at Hofstra is after two years.</p>
<p>Aw, I just looked up Pace University in NYC for their BA/Theater Arts major, but I see they do audition and deadlines are past. </p>
<p>If she does take off a year, Pace might be one to put onto next year’s list. Sorry I couldn’t help more.</p>
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<p>Also, check out Montclair State University. Perhaps their BA in Theater Studies is still available for application this year? I don’t know and didn’t research their deadlines. They certainly have many BFA, MFA programs all under that roof. I regularly see Montclair State U on performer’s self-descriptions in off-Broadway shows. If she could get into the BA/Theater Studies program track, that might satisfy for 4 years, and never mind the BFA program. It’s in New Jersey, not NYC.
Even so, Soozie’s advice is very important: will she be content to be in a BA program where there is also a BFA program? The advantage of taking a year off and reapplying to nonaudition or audition programs (both) has advantages, if she can maintain her academic momentum and improve her perfromance training during the gap year. There are sometimes more hours “on the boards” for a student in a BA/Theater program where no BFA is in sight, although the curriculum and training are not as intense as entering a BFA program. Pros and cons, obviously.</p>
<p>If she’s willing to be in New Jersey, Drew has a non-auditioned theater program. I believe their deadline is tomorrow.</p>
<p>[Drew</a> University](<a href=“http://www.drew.edu/]Drew”>http://www.drew.edu/)
[Theatre</a> Arts Courses – College Catalog – Drew University | Drew University](<a href=“http://www.drew.edu/CatalogScripts/cla/group.php?group=THEA]Theatre”>http://www.drew.edu/CatalogScripts/cla/group.php?group=THEA)
[Theatre</a> Arts | Drew University](<a href=“http://www.drew.edu/depts/theatre.aspx?]Theatre”>http://www.drew.edu/depts/theatre.aspx?)</p>
<p>^there ya go! It all depends on what your definition of “New York City” is. :)</p>
<p>Montclair State’s Theatre Studies BA program has a group audition. If you were interested, you should contact the dept and see if it is too late to apply and schedule an audition. I’m pretty sure they run auditions well into March.</p>
<p>Montclair is definitely in the New York area. The Manhattan skyline can be seen from the campus.</p>
<p>My son, who is in a theatre BFA program in another state, has a lot of NJ friends who are BA Theatre Studies students at Montclair and really like the program.</p>
<p>Soozie - Thanks for your advice and recommendations. I wish there were a list of these non-audition based BA schools/programs.</p>
<p>paying3 -Thank you very much, I am checking into Montclair. It seems close to NYC. It still requires audition/interview for BFA or BA theater studies. As for Pace, she applied, received academic acceptance with merit scholarship. She had audition and is waiting. It is her top choice and she would be thrilled to go there. This is the school I thought she should go even if she does not get into the BA program with the hopes to re-apply. </p>
<p>Any thoughts on that? I know Soozie disagrees. I’m very confused.</p>
<p>Left of Pisa - Thanks!! I will call Drew in the mornin, their deadline is tomorrow. Thank goodness they take the Common App too. It’s close to NYC.</p>
<p>NJTheatreMom - Thanks!! I will call Montclair tomorrow to see if she can audition. They require for both programs and deadline for audition is 3/26. </p>
<p>I really appreciate the wonderful responses and suggestions. It has been stressful for both and it seems far from over. We just have to wait and see. I will keep you informed.
Good Luck to everyone :)</p>
<p>Has your D considered Muhlenburg? It is a great nonaudition program, although not particularly close to NYC (couple hours on a bus).</p>
<p>megpmom - Thanks for the suggestion, we just did submit the application knowing it was a non audition program. It seems to have great reviews and feedback.
I know its not NYC however, it would be a true college experience not that far away.</p>
<p>I think Soozie is quite correct that it would be a poor idea to attend a school where one was denied admission to an auditioned BA with the hopes of being admitted to the program down the line.</p>
<p>Regarding Pace, my son has a friend there who says that a lot of competition exists within the BA program. I have seen posts on CC stating that it is possible to spend four years at that school and never get cast. That might not matter to your D…or it might.</p>
<p>Attending a good un-auditioned BA program would almost certainly result in performance opportunities.</p>
<p>For a student willing to take a gap year and get more training if not admitted to a BFA program, that is a very viable option. My son applied to BFA programs only, with the idea in mind of taking a gap year if necessary.</p>
<p>There are posts in the Theatre/Drama majors forum by students who have been admitted into very selective BFA programs on the second try following rejections and a gap year.</p>
<p>It is too late for this year, but there is no audition required for Brooklyn College’s BA program:</p>
<p>[Brooklyn</a> College Department of Theater / Programs / Undergraduate / BA Theater](<a href=“http://depthome.brooklyn.cuny.edu/theater/programs_undergrad_ba_theater.html]Brooklyn”>http://depthome.brooklyn.cuny.edu/theater/programs_undergrad_ba_theater.html)</p>
<p>There is an audition requirement for their BFA program, however.</p>