Help revise my college list?

I’m a rising senior applying to colleges in the fall. Below are my stats, the colleges I’m considering, and my preferences.

Preferred Location: CA, New England+New York or Midwest (Preferably not South), preferably a suburban or urban campus
~No preference for cost/size/Greek life

Demographics: Asian female from public school in CA

Major: Comp sci or Math

GPA: About 3.8-3.9 UW, 4.2-4.4 W
~Will have taken 10 AP’s by the end of high school, including 6 by the end of junior year
~4 B’s throughout High School (all in AP’s)

SAT: 1510 (790 M, 720 R/W) and 1530 superscore (790 M, 740 R/W)

ECs: (pretty generic)
-Officer in Red Cross club
-NHS
-editor of school newspaper
-2 CS-related summer programs at universities
-Paid job as math tutor at tutoring center
-Teach computer programming classes to kids
-Taking C++ classes online in spare time

My tentative list: (All of the schools below are affordable based on net price calculator. Family income is pretty high–cost will not be an issue)

Safety:
University of Pacific
UC Riverside/Merced (Am in top 9% of CA)
SJSU

Match:
Santa Clara University
UCSC, UCI, UCSD, UCSB
RPI
WPI
RIT
UPitt

Reach
UIUC
Northeastern
Brandeis

I am open to college suggestions, opinions, etc. Thanks for your time!

Have you looked at any LAC’s as some have great CS programs and even more have outstanding math programs?

@Chembiodad Thanks for the suggestion – I’ll definitely look in to some LAC’s. Are there any specific ones you recommend?

I think your reaches are more like matches. I think you could add some reaches. Maybe Carnegie Melon or Johns Hopkins

Suggestions in the NE - Bowdoin, Hamilton. Middlebury and Williams, in Mid-Atlantic - Haverford and Swarthmore, in Midwest - Carleton. Some are small towns and some are rural, but in many instances they are within 30-45 minutes of cities, like Bowdoin and Portland, Middlebury and Burlington, Carleton and Minneapolis.

Tufts could be another one to add for a strong math program

Tufts comp sci is strong as well. Also would add Wesleyan.

You should look at Occidental College – good math department, urban-ish, California. They have a CS minor and let you take more CS at Caltech.

It is another reach, but have you looked at Harvey Mudd?

In terms of LACs, these colleges appear in a Princeton Review sampling, “Great Schools for Mathematics Majors,” and meet your geographical criteria and general profile: Bowdoin, Bryn Mawr, Holy Cross, Hamilton, Harvey Mudd and Haverford. Universities such as URochester also appear:

http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/20695620#Comment_20695620

In terms of a LAC that would be strong for both of your interests, Hamilton has performed notably well in math and computer science competitions, often against larger schools:

https://www.hamilton.edu/news/story/mathletics-team-freezes-out-competition-in-snow-bowl

https://www.hamilton.edu/news/story/comp-sci-department-hosts-college-computing-conference

https://cs.hamilton.edu/ccscne/

Agreed with others that your reaches are more matches (except for UIUC CS) and should consider a few reaches - Harvey Mudd and CMU are two good options.

Brandeis seems like an odd duck here compared to the rest - what attracted you to it?

University of Michigan may be a good option.

That list is very biased.
John’s Hopkins for a reach, RPI for a match.
RPI would be great for you as a female because you’d get a lot of financial award as well as the fact that they are a top curriculum for both CompSci and Math.

@wisteria100
Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll do more research on CMU.
JHU seems a bit too unrealistic for me given my gpa and EC’s, but I’ll look into that too.

I’ve looked in to some of the LAC’s suggested so far, and Harvey Mudd seems like an appealing reach (impressive gender ratio, too). I’ll try doing more research on LAC’s and touring some on the list @merc81 posted. Thanks for the suggestions!

@warblersrule, thanks for posting the list!
I spoke to former classmates attending Berkeley, and based on their experiences and descriptions of the over-competitive/stressful environment, I didn’t think I’d want to spend 4 years there – I’ll still consider adding it as a reach, however.

@GoRedhead Wow, I didn’t know that RPI would award more financial aid depending on gender – I’ll have to look in to that some more.

@PengsPhils Thanks for the suggestions – I’ll try to visit both CMU and Mudd over the summer!

I have yet to visit Brandeis or do any in-depth research, so that school may get tossed from the list. But other than academic rigor, I was attracted to the multicultural experience (large body of foreign students) and surrounding city (internship opportunities available). I’ve only recently heard of the school – hopefully I’ll be able to check it out more later.

I’ve seen you on the NEU forums when I was lurking there – your posts are incredibly helpful and insightful. As of now, NEU would be my first choice, and I’m debating applying ED there – is there anything about the school that you seriously dislike?

In CS, you won’t have trouble getting internships because of location, and commuting into Boston daily from Brandeis would be a long trek (it’s not really conveniently close), so I don’t think its location is too much of an advantage. I had it on my list originally but it quickly fell off. It’s also not incredibly strong in CS. For a comparable school, I would say BU would offer more or less what Brandies does with a better location for you and a better CS program from what I know of each.

Glad to hear on NEU of course! I wouldn’t say I seriously dislike anything, but there are minor annoyances to be found anywhere. When it comes to certain things, there can be a lot of administrative bureaucracy here - you can pretty much do whatever you need to, but it may take 4 different meetings and being referred around until you find the person that can actually help you with what you need. It’s referred to as “The NU Shuffle”. Given the complexities of co-op (and how that fits together with financial aid, changing your schedule, graduation, etc), I think it’s understandable. It also shows through in stuff like the housing lotto, etc. In pretty much every case I’ve heard, it works out in the end at least.

While I would of course would be very biased and would love to recommend applying ED, my caution against it in your scenario is that I think you have the ability to reach even higher, and it would likely not feel good to get an acceptance to Harvey Mudd but get stuck in ED, especially given that you won’t have a financial excuse out of it since you will be able to afford it. I think if you visit and apply EA, Northeastern will be a high match for you, not a reach.

I don’t want to give you too much confidence because you never know in admissions, and the other situation of “I missed all of my reaches” is a fair concern too. It’s also early in the existence of ED for Northeastern, so it’s unclear how much o a boost it gives. Here’s how I would frame the question of ED at Northeastern: Which is the worse scenario - getting into a school like Harvey Mudd after being accepted ED, or being rejected from both and going to (insert your #2 option with higher acceptance rate here)? The answer to that comes down to how you see Northeastern compared to your #2 below it, and how much more you like your reaches.

Your list has a lot of similarity to mine when I applied - it came down to an EA acceptance at NEU while awaiting decisions at Stanford and Mudd. In the end, the gap between how much I liked NEU and those two was pretty small, while I really preferred NEU to the other schools where I was accepted. Depends on your situation.

Hopefully that helps you weigh it all a bit when it comes time to decide! Of course, I’d highly recommend Northeastern and especially for CS. There’s been discussion of the list upthread, which is biased towards large programs and those close to Silicon Valley. That list is actually a reflection of all employees, which means it’s a bit dated. They also crunched the numbers on new-grad hires, and Northeastern ranked #21 there despite located on the east coast. I think that speaks a lot to Northeastern’s strength and rise in CS.

Glad my posts were helpful! Feel free to message me with any more questions about these schools - I looked at a lot of them personally and have friends/coworkers that go/went to a few of these (BU, WPI, RPI, U of Michigan, RIT). Of course, visiting yourself is always preferable :slight_smile:

I’d say that UC Santa Cruz would also be a safety and merced isn’t really necessary to apply to. Thow in an extra cal state with auto admit if you feel worried, but you’ll very likely be accepted to santa cruz and riverside. SJSU is a bit harder because of their strong cs program, but you should be admitted. In addition, your reaches don’t seem to be reaches. They are closer to targets, with UIUC being your only possible reach target as you are OOS for a competitive major. I also agree with above sentiments that you should add berk and LA to your list, albeit I didn’t read their answers and your responses thoroughly

Additional Safety ideas:
SDSU
Cal Poly Pomona

additional match ideas:
rochester
case western
Lehigh
wisconsin
washington (maybe reach target bc you’re OOS)

additional reach ideas:
Georgia Tech
Michigan
berkeley
LA
CMU