<p>Yes, with most white collar jobs its cubicle based… The only thing I think isnt would be most computer engineering (or, more recently the hippy versiln, designing). but those fields are INSANELY hard to jump to from a marketing majors point of view as you probably dont have the prerequisites done. I guess you could become a construction worker? And NEVER, mark my words, NEVER confuse cubicle with sitting there and not really working… Youll loose your job!</p>
<p>lol im on the same boat.</p>
<p>im an economics major, graduated in June, hoping to get a job in media research or accounting for entertainment companies.</p>
<p>i interned at a major film studio conducting box office research and at the parent company of MTV (keeping it anonymous but obvious). also been a teaching assistant for a liberal arts class and an entertainment finance class.</p>
<p>over the summer i had 6 interviews. at time warner, time inc, marvel, universal mccaan, nielsen. reached final rounds on 3 of them. didnt get accepted. im an international student so that may be the problem. but i checked on linkedin to see who were hired for those positions i interviewed for. and those people… they dont have good credentials. one of them interned at a company and that’s it. nothing else.</p>
<p>also i decided to do some “investigation” and i noticed that one of the directors i interviewed with, only has women working for him. and the new hire is also a woman. shes good looking ill admit, though one internship at a small company. i swear the director has a pedophile’s smile or something.</p>
<p>i dont know what went wrong. im humble and condescending in my interviews, because thats who i am. i try to sell myself but in a humble way, not in a pompous, overly confident way. it worked with my interships heh…</p>
<p>anyway, my last interview was august 14th. its now october 2nd. i havent had a single interview since that august. im really really worried. ive been applying everywhere… literally. i worked hard to not be in this situation… and i honestly refuse to pick up my schools diploma until i get a job lol. i had 6 interviews… i guess my credentials are “ok”. but its october now… and im not getting anything…</p>
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by the way, i know someone who graduated from UPenn last year and still couldnt find a job.</p>
<p>^ Question…</p>
<p>“im humble and condescending in my interviews, because thats who i am.”</p>
<p>I’m sure this is a typo right? Do you mean “NOT CONDESCENDING?” Because if you are condescending in your interviews…that’s why you didn’t get the job. Condescending means you look down on others.</p>
<p>Haha yes! I honestly misunderstood the definition of condescending.
I never look down on people or feell superior because there are always people who have accomplished far better things than I have.</p>
<p>It really depends on what you majored in, or where you look. Kf your willing to look internationally, you might be able to find an internship that will lead to a job. just because your service isnt a big part of the American economy, doesnt mean it wont be a big part of a differeng country. Of course, apply for work visas and such.</p>
<p>Thoughts from a 27yo with nearly 5 years post-college in the business world…</p>
<p>-That “degree invalid in 6 months” is cockamamie. That ‘6 month’ thing is a total myth. I know lots of people that didn’t get ‘real jobs’ until a year or more after college, and they’re doing fine now.</p>
<p>-Marketing is absolutely an industry where supply of post-college workers is far higher than demand. I hope that you’re aware of that.</p>
<p>-You MUST be on LinkedIn. You must spend hours a day finding strangers on there (primarily recruiters at staffing agencies and internal recruiters at other companies). If you’re a job-searcher, you should be connected to at least 500 people on LinkedIn. I’m not exaggerating at all. </p>
<p>-Cold-calling almost always fails. A far better use of your time is to connect with recruiters through LinkedIn.</p>
<p>-A close friend of mine 4.5 years ago graduated with a marketing degree, good grades, good internship from a university much higher-ranked than UB. The only job that he could get was at a small sporting goods / hunting company. Did inside sales (really just process orders from customers) and really really basic marketing campaigns. Did that for two years … he’s now at a really small marketing agency. … The moral: even with someone with a marketing degree from a really good university, the path into the industry can be quite difficult.</p>
<p>-I really wanted to get into financial services / economic research after graduating college with an economics degree. Alas, the only job offer that I got several months after graduating college in 2008 was as an IT consultant. I took it, and I’m glad that I did. I didn’t find the work interesting, but I was happy to be gaining “real professional experience”. I built a solid network from the job, and proved to future employers that I’m a) smart / skilled enough to get hired by this elite company b) smart / skilled enough to keep the job and be successful at it. … You might have to work a few years of “generic” corporate work, then do an MBA at a top-30 school if you really want to get into marketing. … As much as this sucks to hear, at this point, if you get any sort of “professional” job offer, I would take it. </p>
<p>-Consider working at Enterprise. They’ll hire any college grad at 32k. Kinda sketchy, really long hours, frustrating work (lots of car-cleaning), BUT … you gain solid real world sales / marketing experience. Within 2 years, you can be making 50k, within 3-4 years you can make 70k. </p>
<p>I genuinely believe that you would be good at the job. But TONS of people in your level would likely be good at the job. … And right now, there’s absolutely no proof that you’d be great at the job, so, that’s why you’re not getting hired. </p>
<p>This might sound strange, but there’s definitely a level of satisfaction of kicking ass in any sort of job, making good money, and then being in high demand, even if it’s not in the field that interests you at first. Success breeds success, and maybe you’ll like other industries. And if you really don’t, you can go do an MBA at a top school and have a much better chance at getting into advertising than you do now. </p>
<p>My ultimate point is that marketing, specifically ‘ad agencies’, is a super-difficult field to break into. Soon enough, you’d be wise to take any sort of ‘professional’ job.</p>
<p>That whole accreditation thing … 99% of companies are clueless about accredidation, nor do they care. Apart from the elite companies (McKinsey, Boston Consulting Group, Wall Street jobs), most companies don’t really care that much where you went, especially for entry-level jobs. One of my friends now has a solid marketing job at Pepsi, and he went to Eastern Illinois University. Never good at school, but hard-working, motivated, and has a personality where everyone loves hanging out with him. … I know another guy that is 40, has a really good marketing position at a big hospital, yet he went to Western Illinois University and has no MBA. </p>
<p>There’s great value in getting a top-30 MBA, in that it gets you into the “elite” companies. … You can definitely have a good, well-paid career without ever working at an elite company. </p>
<p>Another friend of mine really wanted to be a real-estate broker. He didn’t get a job at a top company, and his first two years after college, he made $25k a year. But he busted his butt, and last year he made $90k. </p>
<p>Another friend went to an unknown liberal arts school in the midwest, networked well, got a few years of good work experience, and is now at Harvard Business School. </p>
<p>I went to a ho-hum university, yet at 22 I got a great-paying job at a great company as my first job after college. Main reason why: a friend turned in my resume to the recruiter, and from there, I did a great job interviewing. </p>
<p>My point is … at this point, the fact that you attended UB is irrelevant. It doesn’t help you (your college really only “helps you” if you get a job from on-campus interviewing), yet it doesn’t hurt you either. What matters now is making connections with the people that matter.</p>