what's the deal with college graduates not finding jobs?

<p>I am speaking as an HS senior, but I often wonder if the problem is so much oversaturation with a degree or the extreme difficulty of job searching (beyond the first few rejections) as the fact of marketing yourself?</p>

<p>Sometimes I think that to a prospective employer would want to consider graduates with different degrees for the same position, and I suspect half of the issue is the passion and insight you display at interviews.</p>

<p>Someone please correct my naivete if I'm being sorely mistaken.</p>

<p>I'm also a HS senior, but I think the main reason is that the U.S. economy is basically shot right now lol. </p>

<p>Just a guess.</p>

<p>Ah, but I was referring to the long-term issue. ;)</p>

<p>I was reading somewhere how the overall demand for graduates is still rather strong despite the recessions... can't remember the article though.</p>

<p>Which is why I think the most frequent reason is self-marketing -- but I could be very wrong.</p>

<p>Its because a lot of college grads usually come out of college with poor work experience. As far as I know, 4 of my close friends going into either their 3rd or 4th years have no meaningful internship experience. They have part-time jobs that anyone could get. People don't understand that summer isn't the time for more school or to just go off on random vacations, but time to get meaningful work experience.</p>

<p>how exactly do you define "meaningful internship" experience? working at a big 4 firm?</p>

<p>Yeah, a big 4 internship, an internship with coca cola, an internship with ford, an internship at Kaiser, an internship in a lab, an internship with your school, something that you can put on your resume. Not "cashier" or "customer service representative". No offense to those professions, but those aren't exactly resume builders.</p>

<p>Why? Most college graduates are trash thats why. Most just cruised their way past and just fooled around.</p>

<p>galoisien,
I read that article as well, but it stated that the demand for graduates is strong only in California and in the Northeast. Demand for graduates is especially strong on Wall Street. However, Wall Street only hires from a few target schools and leaves graduates from others schools loosing sleep over not having any jobs.</p>

<p>I think it's because colleges don't teach you anything about finding jobs. I know a lot of people that had a really difficult time finding a job because they didn't know what they field to go into. Unless you get hooked up with a really nice job, any job you get is going to be entry-level.</p>

<p>This website below sums it up very well on why college graduates can't find jobs:</p>

<p>Top</a> 10 Reasons Why College Graduates Can’t Get a Job » Self Improvement Blog - BrianKim.net</p>

<p>It is definitely geographic too. I moved back to Michigan after graduating from college last year where the state economy has been poor for over five years. I feel grateful to have A job making income and gaining experience when it's easy to be continuously unemployed here.</p>

<p>I don't know what dream world IPBear is living in but demand on Wall Sttreet is not high. In fact it is terrible. Here's some facts. Not to mentiopn the 40,000 out of work WS folks now pounding the streets.</p>

<p>Lower</a> Pay for Wall Street New Hires - Articles - On Wall Street</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/business/19bear.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/19/business/19bear.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Bloomberg.com:</a> Worldwide</p>

<p>Unfortunately Hedge Funds are tanking at a fast rate too.</p>

<p>Meanwhile out in the Midwest the Big 10 schools are doing just fine placing business/engineering grads into jobs without needing much help from Wall Street firms. Many people have multiple offers.</p>

<p>Lessons</a> of Bear funds' collapse went unheeded - Jun. 19, 2008</p>

<p>I wonder how many CC alumni we'll be seeing in stories like this in 10-20 years.</p>

<p>Each year, it seems that there's a million people with fresh communications and psychology degrees bumping into each other yelling, "I'll take any job I can get! I have to pay off these student loans!"</p>

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<li>Source: friend's dad who is a human resources exec at a fortune 500.</li>
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<p>Because most people have joke majors at a non-elite school, or simply just partied waayy too hard during College and got ****ty grades. </p>

<p>It's kinda funny when you read articles when people from Podunk uni moan about not having a job after "working hard" for 16+ years. Their definition of working hard is getting wasted 24/7, not going to class, and sleeping lol.</p>

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a million people with fresh communications and psychology degrees...
- Source: friend's dad who is a human resources exec at a fortune 500.

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<p>My nephew says 'they' (corporations) are hiring accounting and IT people from among the general college grad. population (not the elite schools). Anyone want to add another in-demand discipline?</p>

<p>most people not getting hired are ones who don't have marketable degrees and/or low GPAs.</p>

<p>USELESS MAJORS:</p>

<p>-psychology/sociology
-child development
-textile and apparel management
-broadcast journalism
-communications</p>

<p>here is a dose of reality. there are plenty more worthless majors that aren't very marketable. you have a better chance being a success as a pro athlete. many of people (mostly girls at my college) chose between those majors. they're very easy majors and provide minimal chance at a decent wage after graduation. mostly, they're just time killers...reasons to be in college, satisfy their parents, etc. i'd bet for many, that half of their reason for continuing their education further is to land a husband or wife (who actually has a strong chance for a successful future), if they haven't yet during their undergrad. lol. i've dumped quite a few girls because i could tell they were looking for a marriage-type guy before they graduated. sorry i don't allow sponging. i just don't and can't respect anyone who takes the easy track. why waste money and time going to college, if you're just looking to become a mooch? it disgusts me. note: this doesn't apply to those who actually do become a success and self-supporting...just the other 95%.</p>

<p>Psychology is only as useless as you make it out to be. And child development (especially child language fascination) has a lot of interesting features, both on the macro-level and the microlevel (cell biology + gene cascade sequences). They're not necessarily easy ways out.</p>

<p>I suppose if you go to a questionable school with a questionable psychology programme, you have a questionable psychology major. Now mind you, as a cognitive science major, I happen to be quite suspicious of social psychology people, simply because I dislike how they approach the scientific method, and the less-than-ingenious experimental techniques they use, as well as their lack of effort to try to unify their findings across other disciplines to create exciting findings. </p>

<p>Now at my school for example, the psychology building is a huge extension of the biology building and unless I'm not hallucinating (I was just passing by for crew tryouts, lol) there are also several psychological (including one for children) clinics located there. And mind you, research into child development isn't just to raise good children ... it also helps adults in say, realising what regenerative genes are turned on in children that are turned off in adults, and so forth. </p>

<p>And doesn't it also depend on the coursework? </p>

<p>I came in to my school with 43 advanced standing credits as a first-year. I am taking 16 credits this year, because all the other 1-credit courses were full (first-year credit limit is 17 that cannot be lifted except for very special circumstances) or not worth it to get third-year standing by end of first semester. For example this semester I have intro to linguistics, intro to neurobiology (lots of signal transduction cascades + biochemistry + cell biology, on top of the beginnings of information theory), CHEM 181 (the first of four parts of the honors chemistry sequence), and FREN 334 (advanced oral and written expression or whatever). </p>

<p>Now, do you think I'm taking the easy route out by opting for a cognitive science major with a concentration in neuroscience OR computer science OR linguistics, on top of a second major in economics and maybe using my minor slot for computer science (in which then my cogsci concentration will be something else other than CS). I mean, the only reason why I am not triple-majoring is that my school doesn't allow me to.</p>

<p>I will probably have enough credits to graduate early by the end of 3rd year, but unless costs are a significant factor I plan to accumulate as much advanced coursework as possible.</p>

<p>So ... are my chances of getting a job ruined because I'm aiming for a cogsci career?</p>

<p>@ icawn</p>

<p>Did you know broadcast journalists in the top major markets make SIX FIGURES??? (One of our local news anchors was making at least $300,000 annually just to report the morning news!) I don't hardly think her major was "worthless" (some of us would love to make that kind of money). In fact, broadcast journalism is more competitive and prestigious in some ways than print and radio journalism.</p>

<p>Sociology and psychology majors are excellent preparation for graduate school (professional and doctoral programs). You can do anything with these degrees in many types of careers (note: Sociology is more versatile than psychology).</p>

<p>I don't know much about communications. It's a broad field and it highly depends on what career trajectory you choose. Some communication majors end up being directors of public relations/marketing in companies. Again, your list is highly flawed.</p>

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Did you know broadcast journalists in the top major markets make SIX FIGURES??? (One of our local news anchors was making at least $300,000 annually just to report the morning news!)

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<p>That's like saying how if you're a superstar basketball player you can make more in a single game than many people will make in their entire lives. And there's probably more superstar athletes than news anchors in major markets.</p>