help w/admission!!

<p>Hey I was wondering if this looks like what Rice is looking for at all for music/creative writing majors:</p>

<p>GPA: 4.19 weighted (going to rise)
3.88 unweighted (same)
Rank: 32/317 (getting better..it's in the 20's now)
SAT: (they're not fair)..writing 610, crit reading 520, math 550.
ACT: June 10th, not taken yet.
9th grade i took almost all honors (I have 3 B's on my transcript), 10th grade i took 2 honors, this year (11) i took 1 ap and 4 honors and have all A's (one b+). From 10th grade on, I have all A's on the transcript. Next year, I am taking 4 AP's (2 AP and 2 ap weighted honors) and 1 actual honors honors.</p>

<p>Extracurriculars: People to people student ambassador program, national youth leadership conference (possibly--next summer), glsen (helps teach others about diversity), junior mendelssohn choir, voice lessons, piano lessons, cantoring for my rabbi, jazz choir, chamber choir (most elite), and many others that I can't think of. </p>

<p>Thanks!!</p>

<p>good EC and involvement. try to raise ur grades and sat but they look at u as a whole person. work hard on the application, the essay and the box---all those things ameliorate ur chances of admission.</p>

<p>your app is good. EC's, grades are fine. But the SAT needs to go up a lot.. make it 700 all at a minimum if possible</p>

<p>Woah you did the P2P student ambassador program?! I did that in the summer of 2000. lol that's cool. I actually wrote about that trip in the "favorite work or educational experience" question on my app.</p>

<p>First of all, you're definitely a candidate. Just turn in your application on time, write enjoyable essays, study for the SAT, etc.</p>

<p>I want to NYLC (Natl Youth Leadership). I think it's a scam and a waste of money, but I don't know if colleges know that. As far as ECs go... how big of a committment is glsen, because they might not understand how you fit into your community beyond school/music.</p>

<p>yea NYL is pretty much a scam..they want ur money</p>

<p>glsen is actulaly not always intended for peopel in high school. usually, it entails weekly or a "few times a week" presentations to adults, mainly teachers, about diversity, blah blah. So, it depends. but, it's a very good program i think ^</p>

<p>they ask for all this money and then if you ask for financial aid reply with "we have run out of funds"....</p>

<p>you cant get in with those sat scores......</p>

<p>you might be able to make it into music with those SAT scores.
But you might not be able to make it into music... Realize that their music program is insanely intense. Only about 30 people get in, including all of the instruments (violin, piano, organ, cello, bassoon, clarinet, oboe, etc.) and voice. Unless you're really insanely good (and I can't judge, obviously), it is really tough. Not that I'm trying to shoot down your hopes. It's worth a shot if you think you're really that good.</p>

<p>Creative writing? Perhaps. I didn't see too many writing courses in the course booklet though. Maybe you should look elsewhere for college. However, if you really wish to go to Rice, grades and SAT can always be better. Get a prep book for the SAT or something. That helps some people. I didn't use one, but I hear a lot of people who do get significantly better scores.</p>

<p>EDIT: about music, i said "Unless you're really insanely good ... it is really tough." I feel the need to correct myself: "Even if you're really insanely good ... it's really tough."</p>

<p>I was admitted to Rice this year on double bass. Don't listen to people on here. SAT's and your GPA don't mean a thing for music applicants. It may be different if you want to double major, but speaking from experience, you don't need to sweat it.</p>

<p>The audition is the single most important factor in your admission. Visit the campus and try to get a lesson with a teacher you'd like to study with. It's easier to get in if the teacher has met you.</p>

<p>Also, be aware that the competition to get into the Shepherd School is very intense. There are 300 total music students, including graduate students, at Rice. The school is considered to be on par with every major music conservatory in the country. The program is intended for those who plan on being professional musicians.</p>

<p>I think there are non-major orchestras and choirs available at Rice, so if you want to be involved in music without being a music major, that option is also open.</p>

<p>ok i have a problem with what people are saying. i say screw all this pessimistic people here that just try to bring you down. never let anybody shoot down ur hopes. believe me, people have done it to me before when i didnt speak english. the SAT is alot of BS and it doesnt even judge accurately one's intellectual abilities. i know people that are stupid and have gotten like 1450's on their sats so that shows you that it is nothing and rice recognizes that and u can see it by looking through the admissions threads and seeing people getting denied even if they had the SAT. there is no requried SAT. they look at you as a person and not a number. and besides you can also take the SAT2's and take subjects that offer a different spectrum of your abilities. good luck man. do your best, work on the essay and believe in yourself. again, SAT is not everything.
-sergio</p>

<p>haha yay! pcannon essentially defended what I said. Or what I meant to say. (When I said SAT scores could be better, I meant it if you wanted to major in creative writing. You don't need any SAT scores really for Shepherd)</p>

<p>And if you do want to major in creative writing, or any other academic field, I strongly suggest retaking the SAT. Especially since you said "they're not fair" on your post. While sergio is absolutely correct in that the SAT does not make or break a college admission application, if you prepare well for it, the SAT can be an easy additional plus on your application. Like sergio said, it's possible for stupid people he knew to get 1450. But from what I've seen of my friends I believe that a lot of the SAT is preparation and confidence. </p>

<p>There are several factors that affect a college admission (except with music, where it's all the audition, as pcannon said, unless you're a complete idiot...). But don't you want all of these factors to be the very best?</p>

<p>So again, I strongly suggest retaking the SAT.</p>

<p>u know, morons getting 1450's and Genii getting 1100 is the anomaly not the norm... U quote 1 example and dismiss the SAT. U have to retake it...</p>

<p>of course he should take it again..but i think u guys give it too much importance. i think that the sat2's are more important in the first place.</p>