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<p>I don’t have any hard facts, but I would guess “no.” It seems (to me) that SOMs want higher MCATs for MD/XXX (no matter which one)…like MCAT 35+. I don’t know if this is because those programs often come with money…or if these programs just expect/demand that the acceptees have super stats…or if the competition is so great that only the tippy top get accepted.</p>
<p>I have quite a few MD/PhD friends at a variety of programs (all NIH supported), and I can’t think of a single one who scored <36.</p>
<p>Don’t forget that only a few medical schools offer MD/PhD programs. So adding a couple of points to THOSE schools’ average MCAT scores will come out a lot higher than 32.</p>
<p>Is it true that only a few SOMs offer MD/PhD programs? I don’t know any stats, but it seems that many of the schools my son applied to have MD/PhD programs. </p>
<p>That said, I just think a person has to assume that they need a MCAT 35+ to apply for those programs…unless maybe you’re a very desirable URM.</p>
<p>I just counted; it’s a lot more than I realized (43). I had guessed about half that (26). Still, that’s approximately one-third of the medical schools in the country.</p>
<p>i definitely worded my question incorrectly. i was just asking about a 2 point differential, rather than an exact score… son understands his goal must be for a 35 or above at any school even for consideration… but for example with the top schools they are up at 35, 36 already…</p>
<p>The 43 schools refers to MSTP programs specifically. These are the NIH funded programs where students pay no tuition and receive a stipend for all the years. They are also the top 43 MD/PhD programs. Quite frankly, these are the only programs one should consider (and maybe the schools that also offer full funding through their own funding sources). There are other MD/PhD programs at schools that offer only a stipend during grad school or don’t fully cover tuition or some other combination of subsidies less than full. I can’t really see a reason to do one of these.</p>
<p>The national average for MD/PhD programs is 34.5 (<a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/321548/data/2012factstable35.pdf[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/download/321548/data/2012factstable35.pdf</a>) but that includes the non MSTPs. I think most MSTPs will list their average MCAT so you may not have to do the math yourself but if you must guess, my guess is the average is +2.5 or 3 trying to account for the fact that generally only the better ranked med schools have MD/PhD programs. So at a school where the average MD is 36, I wouldn’t doubt the average MD/PhD could be 39. I believe my MD/PhD program has an average MCAT of 38 and I’m not even at a top 10 program.</p>
<p>iwbb… thanks…that was a great answer to a poorly worded question :)</p>
<p>There are 109 MD/PhD programs in the nation, and 42 of them are MSTPs</p>
<p>@parent56, is your S applying to MD/PhD programs?</p>
<p>plumazul… that is his intention, mcat score may determine how likely that is LOL</p>
<p>But to be clear: I would definitely just try to find the program’s stats. Most MD/PhD programs have their own website within the SOM or usually the graduate school of biology.</p>
<p>I would say research experience is far more important than MCAT. While the MSTPs all have high MCAT, my guess is as long as your MCAT is in range for the med school it won’t matter.</p>
<p>Consider that many who are accepted to NwU are also accepted to Case. Actually, it seems that acceptance to Case triggers interview and possible acceptance to NwU. As “Asian female, CA resident” you would fit soooo well at Case, check them out!</p>
<p>Thanks, MiamiDAP! I will.</p>
<p>I vote for baylor.</p>
<p>Please use old threads for information only, don’t post and revive them.</p>
<p>When you click on a member name, you will see an option to view the posting history, the OP hasn’t been active on CC since Jan.</p>