<p>What about a list to show were the Nobel Prize winners got their undergraduate degrees.</p>
<p>Also what happen to CCNY their was a time when it seemed every other Nobel Prize winner went to school there.</p>
<p>Saul Bellow should appear on the Wisconsin list bringing it to 18</p>
<p>From his bio "Bellow later did graduate work at the University of Wisconsin". He was told by his master's thesis reviewer at UW that his talent was more in writing than anthropology. He left the UW and became a writer.</p>
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He just turned down Harvard's offer to become their new president.
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<p>Uh, I think it's far more accurate to say that Cech withdrew his name from the presidential search process, as did several other high-profile contenders (i.e. Etchemandy from Stanford, Richard from Cambridge). To my knowledge, Cech was never actually formally offered the position. If you have something that shows that he actually was formally offered the position, I would love to see it.</p>
<p>A list of Colleges that offered undergraduate education to Nobel Prize laureates:</p>
<p>Rank College Name # of Undergrad who won Nobel Prize</p>
<p>1 Columbia -17
2 Chicago -13
3 Harvard - 11
4 Berkeley -10
5 CCNY - 9 - (CCNY = City College of New York, in case you don't know)
6 NYU - 8 (This is a total number of alum, not undergrad - somebody help)
7 Yale - 7
8 Caltech - 6
8 Cornell - 6
8 MIT - 6
11 Swarthmore - 5
12 Amherst - 4
12 Michigan - 4
14 Princeton - 3
15 Stanford - 2
15 Florida - 2</p>
<p>Please add the data you have figured out.</p>
<p>sakky:</p>
<p>Read between the lines:</p>
<p>From the Boston Globe:</p>
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Nobel laureate Thomas R. Cech , a leading contender for the presidency of Harvard University, unexpectedly withdrew **from consideration yesterday, sending a wave of uncertainty across campus about the search. Until yesterday, Cech and Drew Gilpin Faust , the dean of the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study, were the top two finalists, a person knowledgeable about the search committee's deliberations said yesterday. **The search was expected to end as early as this weekend, but Cech's announcement could delay a decision.
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<p>From the Crimson:</p>
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Cech's surprise decision seems to throw the presidential search into limbo, as an announcement had been expected as early as this week. The Board of Overseers, whose approval is needed to select a president, convenes this weekend for a regularly scheduled meeting. Some had speculated that the search committee—comprised of the six members of the Corporation plus three members of the Board of Overseers—would present a name for the overseers’ approval at that meeting.
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<p>Of course, they didn't "formally" offer him the position. Nobody is going to formally offer that position until they know the candidate will accept. Clearly Cech and Faust were the two final candidates. Could Cech have withdrawn his name because Faust was getting the nod? Sure. However, nobody at Harvard believes that. Faust was not named President for 12 days after Cech withdrew his name and no candidates were presented to the regularly scheduled Board of Overseers meeting five days after Cech withdrew, even though it had been anticipated that the meeting would approve a hire. Faust was presented to a second special Overseers meeting an additional week later.</p>
<p>Dartmouth has three.</p>
<p>Owen Chamberlain '41, 1959 Nobel Prize in Physics
K. Barry Sharpless '63, 2001 Nobel Prize in Chemistry
George Davis Snell '26, 1980 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine</p>
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Of course, they didn't "formally" offer him the position. Nobody is going to formally offer that position until they know the candidate will accept.
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<p>There you go - you just proved my point. No offer was ever made to Cech, therefore you can't say that he really turned any offer down.</p>
<p>Now, was Cech a strong candidate, arguably the strongest? Of course! And was Harvard possibly going to give him the offer? Possibly. But that's irrelevant. At the end of the day, no offer was made. Hence, your original statement that he "turned down Harvard's offer" is false any way you want to look at it. You should have stopped by saying that Cech withdrew from strong contention. But, no matter how you spin it, you cannot turn down an offer that was never actually made.</p>
<p>biztogo, all but one (George Wald) of NYU's Nobel Prize winners received their graduate education at NYU. Hence, for NYU, the record is one undergraduate and seven graduate.</p>
<p>biztogo, Illinois has five at the undergraduate level: </p>
<p>-Edward Doisy, B.S. 1914, M.S. 1916 (Physiology or Medicine - 1943)
-Vincent Du Vigneaud, B.S. 1923, M.S. 1924 (Chemistry - 1955)
-Robert W. Holley, B.A. 1942 (Physiology or Medicine - 1968)
-Jack Kilby, B.S. 1947 (Physics - 2000)
-Edwin G. Krebs, B.A. 1940 (Physiology or Medicine - 1992)</p>
<p>Then another 5 for the Phd:
-Polykarp Kusch, M.S. 1933, Ph.D. 1936 Physics, 1955
-John Schrieffer, M.S. 1954, Ph.D. 1957 Physics, 1972
-Phillip Sharp, Ph.D. 1969 Chemistry, 1993
-Wendell Stanley, M.S. 1927, PhD. 1929 Chemistry 1946
-Rosalyn Yalow, M.S. 1942, Ph.D. 1945 Physiology or Medicine, 1977</p>
<p>A list of Colleges that offered undergraduate education to Nobel Prize laureates:</p>
<p>Rank College Name # of Undergrad who won Nobel Prize</p>
<p>1 Columbia -17
2 Chicago -13
3 Harvard - 11
4 Berkeley -10
5 CCNY - 9 - (CCNY = City College of New York, in case you don't know)
6 Yale - 7
7 Caltech - 6
7 Cornell - 6
7 MIT - 6
10 Swarthmore - 5
10 Illinois - 5
12 Amherst - 4
12 Michigan - 4
12 Johns Hopkins - 4
15 Princeton - 3
16 Stanford - 2
16 Florida - 2
18 NYU - 1
Please add the data you have figured out
-Added Johns Hopkins with 4 total undergraduates to Nobel Prize
-Changed NYU
-Added Illinois</p>
<p>I believe UCSB has 5... </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ucsb.edu/nobel/index.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.ucsb.edu/nobel/index.shtml</a></p>
<p>Joshua, I hope that was sarcasm, but the emoticon doesn't convey it. I'd think the better way of judging the academic quality of an undergraduate school is its ability to place students in top graduate programs--academic, not professional. I mean, that's how the majority of the Nobel Prize winners came to be after their undergraduate education.</p>
<p>Joshua, I just don't think the quality of a school at educating future nobel prize winners 30-40 years ago is a good measure of undergrad academic strength today.</p>
<p>Though I'm sure lots of great schools will be on the list.</p>
<p>These lists are full of holes. Off the top of my head I know Saul Bellow (literature) got his bachelor's degree from Northwestern and Robert Furchgott (physiology/medicine) got his PhD there and Eric Wieschaus (physiology/medicine) graduated from Notre Dame. Also as has been pointed out Dartmouth had several.</p>
<p>Someone should take the time to normalize the Undergrad list according to the size of the school.</p>
<p>Oh and Joshua, I laughed. :)</p>
<p>See above. Ohio Wesleyan--1.</p>
<p>It is noteworthy that two of the top 3 have core curriculums and have had it since the 20s and 30s. Even Harvard may have had a stronger core 40 to 50 years ago when the Nobelists were students. I wonder if studying the core does something for your creativity. Just thinking aloud.</p>
<p>Uh, probably not, since a fair number of those people also taught somewhere else, including a number at schools without a core. First of all, there were less schools that were really tops back then and moreover, less with a lot of money for research. I'm biased because I go to Hopkins, home of the research university education in America, but anyway I seriously doubt you could correlate the core to creative activity of noble prize winners. What does seem to be the trend is coming from powerful, well known institutions lol</p>
<p>Hopkins has also had 5 associated since 2000. We also had Oppenheimer! For those of you who think we're one dimensional, we've had quite a few Pulitzers, the highest educated US president (we share him with Princeton) and more ranking government officials than I really feel like counting. Actually, this is probably going to start a huge war about who's had the best alumni so lets skip it and say we're all great in our way :)</p>
<p>2 Nobel laureates attended Rice University as undergraduates: Robert Curl and Robert Woodrow Wilson.</p>