<p>i can’t even explain my remorse, i am so sorry, and i have gone very far to prove that i did not mean it at all. In fact, i didn’t threaten to hurt anyone, i just made it appear as i was a terrorist, which was a serious mistake, considering being an indian born in Saudi Arabia. </p>
<p>This was really a wake up call, which i believe was from God. And next year i am not attending the same school i’m attending now, but a much larger and even famous prep school.</p>
<p>^^ I’m very glad you’re remorseful- but rather than try to justify your actions and focus on the ‘famous prep school’, you might consider some restitution like tutoring underprivileged kids, ecology work, etc. without thinking about how it will look ‘on your applications’.</p>
<p>So your new schools didn’t care why you had to leave the public school? Or did they not know?</p>
<p>What happened at the hearing? What did your lawyer say, and what was the response?</p>
<p>I’m surprised you got into the “famous” school with a disciplinary problem like that. Do they know?</p>
<p>Please don’t apply to Cornell. Your sense of entitlement would make you a poor candidate for one of the finest schools in the country. You and your parents should consider searching for a program or intensive therapy that would strip you of this ugly trait.</p>
<p>bigtrees: this is from the application you quoted on the first page here:
So yes, indeed colleges ask this question in their application. It is also important that the GC include that information as well in the recommendation. It protects the HS. (That’s exactly what happened with the Catholic church: they didn’t divulge a problem with one of their priests.)</p>
<p>Whether this incident can be “forgiven” during the application process is a big unknown. Not sure anyone can truthfully advise you here, especially because we don’t know all the details and even if it was reported to the police / FBI. Finding out what is on the transcript is something your GC can help you with, a lawyer will help you beyond that.</p>
<p>^ Yes…notice that it asks “suspended or dismissed for ACADEMIC reasons from any of the COLLEGES/UNIVERSITIES listed above”. </p>
<p>He wasn’t suspended for dismissed for academic reasons, and even if so, he wasn’t attending a college or university.</p>
<p>Please do not hide it!
I know you think it will sink your chances, but it will not</p>
<p>I had a 3 day suspension for a minor issue, and none of my colleges seemed to really have an issue with it(although it was in 10th grade and a VERY minor issue)</p>
<p>I know you said you are considering Cornell, a kid from my high school got suspended for a full 9 weeks and he still got into Cornell. Just be upfront!</p>
<p>I understand, i will be sure to explain everything to them. I really don’t want my future to go down the drain just because of some message i typed within 7 minutes.</p>
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-I didn’t apply, but i’m sure they will understand the situation and know that i am remorseful, i got into the school before but didn’t go there…</p>
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-How could you say that without even knowing who i am, or ANYTHING about me… clearly you have an ugly trait…</p>
<p>bigtrees, it’s just a matter of time before they take off that prepositional phrase! And Clinton said, “I did not have s&x with that woman.”</p>
<p>OP: are you truly remorseful about what you did, and understand why it was a problem, or are you remorseful that this action got you into such problems? The entitlement issue is raised here b/c you are asking us to look beyond your actions and to determine your “character” based on a good gpa, but 7 minutes is a long time to do something: shoot a gun, rob a bank, etc. go online and search for ??? It is what you did. You have to be smarter than impulsive and you have to accept consequences for your actions when you do something wrong. In today’s world of the Internet, you are learning the hard way that some issues are not tolerable.</p>
<p>I’m guessing the lawyer did not seem helpful b/c it was evident you did something wrong, seriously wrong. Sounds like your lawyer knew he could not change the facts, so he just tried to change the consequences (and butter up the administrators).</p>
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If you were born in Saudi you should be even MORE aware of the impact of playing at terrorism. And I think the sudden turn in attitude when you started to get criticized is a little disingenuous.</p>
<p>Tonight’s paper has the front page story about nine goofballs in Michigan who are now under arrest for terrorism charges. What started as a church/survivalist/play in the woods group grew into a horrible, horrible plan to kill police officers and then bomb their funerals. It sounds as bizarre as a Woody Allen movie gone bad – but it is real (ok, allegedly real as they haven’t been to court). </p>
<p>Some folks disconnect from reality. They become the Unabomber or stalkers or other very ill and destructive people. When I posted earlier that you should go and “do good”, I wasn’t kidding. You need to connect, in a huge way, with the real world – and the real world is not some private prep school (famous or not). It sounds like you are born into wealth and priviledge. You can spend the rest of your life being “amused” or frightened of the world. Or you can go function in it as a servant of good (or God, as you prefer). </p>
<p>I wish you would read “Three Cups of Tea” and see how one young man went from being self absorbed to other obsorbed.</p>
<p>I think the OP realizes the serious nature of the prank and that it cannot be hidden on applications.</p>
<p>However, many young people make one mistake and move on and have flawless records after the unfortunate incident. Many applicants have drug arrests and similar infractions. If colleges only took kids with perfect records, there would be a lot of empty buildings.</p>
<p>Come clean on the application. Live and learn. Move forward and watch your behavior.</p>
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<p>Are you serious? I can also see the headlines if a college student committed some kind of terrorist act and it came to light that he had made terrorist threats as a high school student, was expelled for it, and the school neglected to disclose it because it would have been “a disservice to the client (student).”</p>
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<p>Based on what he has written so far, I am not getting that sense.</p>
<p>“I think the OP realizes the serious nature of the prank and that it cannot be hidden on applications.”</p>
<p>I see no evidence that the OP realizes the seriousness of what he did or that he understands why it must be included on his application.</p>
<p>The OP did it all wrong. He should have started out in private schools, and then he would have been able to leave the school with a clean record instead of being expelled. The way this works is that the school tells the student to withdraw or they will be expelled. Nice benefit for students at private schools, yes? I’ve seen it happen locally. I think it is wrong. Not the way it works at public schools (usually, anyway). </p>
<p>I wonder if his current school knows about the incident (and, if so, why did they accept him?)? I hope the “famous” prep school finds out about him. </p>
<p>Mummy and Daddy lawyered-up for him, but it didn’t work. Hey, OP, maybe you should sue that lawyer for malpractice, since you believe he didn’t represent your interests? </p>
<p>Very interesting that schools are not commenting to colleges on suspensions and expulsions, according to that article.</p>
<p>I doubt if he will be going to the “famous prep school,” as the admissions cycle for next year is already over. He has posted enough details on this site that he is easily identifiable- the schools are very resistant to inviting trouble onto their campuses.</p>
<p>He’s readily identifiable? I googled, including some info he’s posted, and couldn’t identify him.</p>
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<p>Yes, I am actually serious…I don’t think high school discipline records should be open to the public for inspection. This includes nosy neighbhors, future employers, or colleges and universities.</p>
<p>How would YOU feel if the next job you applied for went to your high school to see what you got disciplined for in high school? Or if the grocery store / restaurant / odd job that hired you made viewing your discipline records a condition of employment? Or if scholarship applications made releasing your discipline records part of the application package? And what if summer camps required access to discipline records before acceptance? And if all this was true, how would kids that were rebellious in high school or had a bad year ever get ahead in life?</p>
<p>My feeling is that universities can ask you for your discipline records, but you have the right to deny them access should you so desire. The college can then chose to accept or reject your application. Your behavior in high school should not prevent you from going to college.</p>
<p>Of course, if you did something really bad, you’d end up in legal court and potentially tried as an adult, which would be public record. Making terrorist threats against a school clearly falls into this category. And I originally started this thought before knowing more about the OP. In his case, he should go back to Saudi Arabia for school since he has no respect for the United States.</p>