<p>Can someone tell me if there is any way to hide an expulsion and 10-day suspension from your school record?</p>
<p>-I can't bother to explain the situation, although it was an incident online which was a JOKE- Which the school took as a terrorist threat even though it was not real or directed towards any of the county's school. I am allowed back into the school the second semester of next year (Junior Year).</p>
<p>Is there any way i can cover the expulsion and suspension from my record so that i still have a fair chance into some lower end Ivies such as Cornell and competitive colleges such as Vanderbilt, Duke, Berkeley, Rice, and Caltech. Also, is there any chance that they wouldn't look at my discplinary records if i have a strong academic and extracurricular performance such as 2100+ on SAT and 3.8+ UW, 4.9+W GPA, with strong involvement in clubs and organizations including National Honor Society, Mu Alpha Theta, Science Honor Society, Eco Club, and internships at large research companies... etc..</p>
<p>Unless I’m mistaken, disciplinary records won’t be sent to schools. The only thing that will be sent is your transcript, which won’t show your discipline history. It will show a semester off and perhaps bad grades I suppose.</p>
<p>However, your best source of information is ask the school. Talk with the prinicpal or other official that you see. Say that you want to get into an Ivy League college like Caltech but you are concerned that your discipline information will be sent to the school. Say, do you send this information to the school.</p>
<p>They will answer your questions, and it will help regain their trust.</p>
<p>Do not try to hide it, explain it. Take responsibility for it and most importantly LEARN from it. You’ve got a long way to go if you think that in this day and age your “JOKE” as you call it which was interpreted as a terrorist threat was taken too seriously by the authorities. I don’t know if you would have had any chance at the schools you list without this incident, but hiding it is not the way to move forward.</p>
<p>^ ^I’m pretty sure his disciplinary record for this WILL be on his transcript. It will be kind of hard to hide the fact that there’s a semester missing on the transcript. </p>
<p>The school may not send a disciplinary record, but an explusion will more than likely be indicated. Not to mention the application usually asks you if you’ve ever been involved in a disciplinary situation and it will definitely come out in your guidance counselor recommendations. </p>
<p>Your best bet is to really go the extra mile to explain yourself on your app. where it asks for additional information, you should write your side of the story. You should start talking to your college counselor, explain that you made a mistake and you had no idea it owuld turn out this way and you’re really sorry, and start working gathering character witnesses who can provide recommendations. People like coaches, pastors, teachers, bosses, who can say that you’re a good kid who made a serious mistake, but primarily a good kid.</p>
<p>I know on the Common Application there is a section where the student must divulge any disciplinary infractions. And it’s not a good idea to leave off something and hope you don’t get caught.</p>
<p>Recently here a student sued the school district to get a disciplinary infraction removed from his record. However, he lost. But you might try to negotiate first to get a lesser charge.</p>
<p>The secondary school report form for the common application asks:
“Has the applicant ever been found responsible for a disciplinary violation at your school from 9th grade (or the international equivalent) forward, whether related academic misconduct or behavioral misconduct, that resulted in the applicant’s probation, suspension, removal, dismisal or expulsion from your institution?”</p>
<p>Your counselor will have to check the yes box and write an explanation. So you will need to explain it yourself. Don’t know if it will derail your chances at highly competitive schools, but I’m sure that not explaining it would likely sink your chances.</p>
<p>If the school took it seriously enough to expel you for a semester, you better believe the school will disclose. The GC is required to do so, and if you don’t as well, you are bleeped. Ditto what other posters have said about taking responsibility.</p>
<p>I don’t understand though…do high schools release disciplinary records to universities and colleges? It seems like this would be doing a disservice to students.</p>
<p>I’m not advocating not disclosing it to the university. But the OP specifically asked about hiding it on his record, and my first thoughts are nobody will see his high school record outside the high school.</p>
<p>I’m also thinking that, while there will be a semester missing from the transcript, that it will not be marked as “expelled” or anything like that.</p>
<p>Please, let’s try to help the OP with his question. He wants to get into college even though he did something wrong, and let’s try to put our heads together to give him some good words.</p>
<p>Yes, I would definitely talk to your guidance counselor and find out what will be on your record and how it will be worded. Ask him also how the school will will handle this in your recommendation from the guidance counselor. You will be asked if you have been expelled on your applications and space will be provided for an explanation. Understanding the information that will be in your transcript…what it says exactly, and your recommendation will allow you to specifically address this in your explanation, but short answer is “no” you will need to address and answer as I’ve not yet seen an application that doesn’t include that question (have you ever been expelled.) Different colleges have different tolerances for mistakes…academic dishonesty is one that most colleges/unis really dislike.</p>
<p>@bigtrees: we did give him some good words. We told him to tell the truth. Words don’t get much better than that. </p>
<p>Who knows how the school will disclose the missing semester. They mark it incomplete or not completed for disciplinary reasons, but believe me there will be a note. And furthermore, read the point someone made above. They ask in the Secondary School Report which the counselor is required to complete, if the student was involved in disciplinary incidents. That’s asking the GC to disclose the disciplinary record. Will high schools disclose every detention for chewing gum in class? No. Will they disclose that the student was expelled for making a threatening remark online? Yes. They’ll also disclose if students have ever been disciplined for fighting, stealing, skipping a lot class, got suspended, etc. It’s not doing the student a disservice, high schools do this because there there are consequences for every action in life. And colleges have a right to know if the person they’re admitting onto their campus has in the past been disciplined by their high school. It could mean they’ll be a disciplinary problem in college. Colleges may choose to admit anyway, but they have a right to know what’s been going on, just like they have a right to know what grades you earned, so they can make a judgemetn if you would do well at their school.</p>
<p>Also, this kid wants to apply to competitive colleges and even Ivies or at least highly-selective schools. Those will all require the secondary school report. Some state schools do not require it.</p>
<p>^^and I do agree with you Bigtrees, I think it’s most important for the OP to find out what is in the transcript and/or the recommendation and from there he can address the question on the app shaping his answer to address what is actually reported in the GC recommendation and the transcript. Too much info is not good, too little is not good. The OP should address the answer based on what is disclosed to the college, nothing more, nothing less and answer honestly the question “have you ever been expelled.”</p>
<p>The secondary school report on the common app specifically asks the counselor whether the applicant has been responsible for a disciplinary violation at the high school that resulted in probation, suspension, or expulsion. That’s not at all ambiguous - the school will report an expulsion if it remains on your record. You can’t hide it, and it would be a big mistake to try.</p>
<p>I agree with the responses you’ve received here that you should go to your school’s administration and ask what you can do to make amends for your error. It sounds as if you’re a sophomore, and you can return to school as a spring semester junior. You have time to work your way out of this hole, but you have to accept responsibility for the violation. Don’t downplay it - the school is taking it seriously. </p>
<p>Most schools have a process for disciplinary hearings - see if you can find out what it entails. If you and your parents contact the administration, make clear that you accept responsibility, apologize, and make amends, it’s possible that your record will be cleared. If not, you can demonstrate that you’ve learned from your mistake via an excellent essay and, more importantly, the productive things you’re going to be doing from now on. What are your school plans between now and next spring?</p>
<p>Yes, and if you are familiar with student privacy and how counselers operate, they don’t disclose didly squat about anybody! Maybe if you give them a signed consent to disclose, but they as heck don’t do it on their own.</p>
<p>^I don’t think that’s true. And as we’ve said, high school students have very little right to privacy, especially about events involving the school.</p>