High GPA important? I don't think so!

<p>I have no intentions to apply to Law school, but I have always wondered about this since I like reading this forum from time to time:</p>

<p>Let's say I'm majoring in Political Science and History. I have:</p>

<p>4 F's on my transcript
And let's say 6 "Ws".
But I still manage to have a 3.85
Dope Extra's (prestigious scholarships/internships)
Perfect LSAT score.</p>

<p>Would any law school take me? I think y'all are scandaloso when you say "your overall GPA is what is important not how you got there." Oh Really?!!!</p>

<p>If you have 4 F’s and a 3.85, that means you have about 120 A’s, or about 15 classes per semester. In that situation, a school would probably understand 4 F’s.</p>

<p>With a perfect LSAT score and “dope” extras, you’d get into a lot of different law schools.</p>

<p>Okay what about a 3.85 and it takes 6 years to graduate? Also, keep in mind that most schools have repeat policies ( You can repeat 2 or 3 classes at most schools). So it’s really like you got 1/2 Fs calculated in your gpa.</p>

<p>I just have a hard time swallowing this. 4 F’s…! 6 withdraws. I really don’t believe this.</p>

<p>what school are we talking about?</p>

<p>Those six withdraws will look awful. Even with that perfect score you will be rejected at some schools in the T14. I do not think you will get in everywhere just because of your 180. Lucky for you the LSAT is important.</p>

<p>I agree with ND, that he’ll get rejected by some schools. But the OP asked about “any law school”, and the question is not even close. In fact some excellent law school will probably take our hypothetical mad-blitz student.</p>

<p>This student has 4 F’s, all of which (I believe) get counted by LSAC. If he retains his 3.85, that means he has received 120 A’s. That’s a ton. Normal college students take something like 40 classes or fewer. The OP’s scenario is ridiculous. 4 F’s will kill you in law school admissions, but they kill you through their effect on your GPA.</p>

<p>I doubt he has 120 A’s. He most likely did an academic renewal at his school allowing him to retake the classes he got the F’s in. But still, the F’s will be calculated into his LSAC because they are still on his transcript, so I’d say his GPA would drop a lot.</p>

<p>Let me guess, you took a ton of University of Phoenix classes?</p>

<p>That will look pretty …</p>

<p>… petty damn BAD!!!</p>

<p>It’s a hypothetical scenario, and the OP didn’t bother to do his math correctly. I was pointing out the absurdity.</p>

<p>

</p>

<p>However each ‘F’ would still be factored into your LSDAS GPA. There’s no practical way you can achieve a 3.85 with 4 'F’s.</p>

<p>Clarification:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>This would be on a quarter system taking 5 classes per quarter. Also, it would take 5.5 years. That would put this applicant around 90 classes. Throw in some summer school…it hits around 120. Also, remember this is a double major.</p></li>
<li><p>What school? UC.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>The UC’s will throw you out if you try to take 130 courses. (120 A’s, 4 F’s, 6 W’s.) Try again.</p>

<p>You need approximately 120 credits to graduate which would be about 40 course (as most classes are 3 credit courses). </p>

<p>Even if you got 120 credits in A’s (120<em>4 = 480)
4 F’s (12</em>0 =0) </p>

<p>480/132 = 3.636363636 (gpa)</p>

<p>I think it would depend on when all of this happened. If the 4F’s and the W’s happened at the begining of your college career, writing a strong addendum would get you into some schools. If this was constantly through out your college career, I think they would look at you differently.</p>

<p>You would probably also explain the 6 years to graduate- academic probation/dismissal, took some time off to get yourself together</p>

<p>Even if your college allows you to retake if the F’s are on your transcript, they will be counted in your LSDAS transcript.</p>

<p>I remember hearing that 4F’s couldn’t serve in the Army.</p>

<p>Lol@ y’all giving my smart self a hard time.</p>

<p>What about 3.9 but 7 “ws”??? No F’s. </p>

<p>I just die laughing when y’all suggest that high GPA is important. It is and it does matter how you got there.</p>

<p>7 W’s would probably have some problems, but with a 180 and “dope” EC’s, I suspect he’d get in to more places than he’d get rejected from.</p>

<p>OP, are you “that guy” in class too, or is it only here that you pose outlandish hypos?</p>

<p>It does matter how you get to your high GPA. If you had an ordinary 3.8 or 3.9 you would get accepted almost everywhere if not everywhere. Believe me some schools will look into his 4 Fs and 7 Ws. He could very well be passed over with someone who got a normal 3.8.</p>

<p>NDJ: I think we’re all in agreement. But the OP’s question was:</p>

<p>

</p>

<p>And the answer is yes, the vast, vast majority of them would.</p>

<p>Yeah I was more directing it to the OP. He seems almost smug about everything. He thinks he beat the system. I’m just trying to tell him that how he got his GPA is important as well.</p>