<p>@ kaiden: ahh i just realized OP = original poster lol. im a bit new to forums and the lingo</p>
<p>i know it’s called policy analysis and management (PAM) i just wasn’t sure if those unfamiliar with cornell would know what i meant by that major. </p>
<p>@flowerhead: my gpa from cc gpa will not transfer to whatever university i transfer to.</p>
<p>i think if i am lucky enough to be admitted to cornell i should go. but im also confused by people saying higher a gpa from another a state school is a better factor for law school admissions.</p>
<p>cornell is a dream school for me for undergrad. i love their program and would be honored to go there. however, i want to make sure i take into account other long-term factors. </p>
<p>ideally, i would just go to cornell and get a 3.9+ and ace my lsats</p>
<p>in order to be a competitive law school applicant if i *must *keep a 3.8-3.9 that is a lot of pressure at a rigorous school. im up for the challenge but i just dont want to blow my future if my grades do drop, and then i take myself out of the running for a t20 law school entirely. </p>
<p>No point in stressing about HLS, SLS, or YLS at any point in your career. Just work hard, put in your best, and see where things stand when the decisions start rolling in.</p>
<p>Studies say that private colleges give out significantly higher GPA’s than public colleges. So you might attain a higher GPA at Cornell than at ASU.</p>
<p>“Studies say that private colleges give out significantly higher GPA’s than public colleges. So you might attain a higher GPA at Cornell than at ASU.”</p>
<p>These types of posts always annoy me. There is no way to scientifically prove what the reason for that is. Although I think I am a good test subject because I happened to transfer from an average state school to a premier private instution can tell you that the reason for that is the makeup of the student body, not the rigor in classes. At my old school, with an extremely large student body, it was very hard for me to find someone that cared about academics half as much as I did. And kids at these schools (for the most part) didn’t know the meaning of doing a lot of work. To these kids other things were much more important to them. So therefore there were many who were not doing very well and didn’t care. At my new school I don’t know a single person with below a 3.0, and the two kids I know with 3.0 like gpa’s are considered stupid kids. Yet the rigor in my courses has been substantially harder. And I am putting in almost double the time on school work to get a slightly worse gpa. One example I think makes a good point about this, I have been a student athlete at both schools I attended, and when I would go out with friends at my old school, all an of the guys would talk about was women and other times when they got drunk. This past friday I went to a concert with a bunch of friends and although hooking up was on the agenda, there was also a long debate about Niche and one about the hypocrisy of the institution of marriage. I’m not sure how good of an example that is, but basically in my experience, almost everyone here is more intelligent but also MUCH more motivated to learn.</p>
<p>i just want to have a shot at stanford, harvard, boston u, and university of chicago. </p>
<p>if getting a 3.6 at cornell makes applying to those schools and getting in next to impossible them im worried. it’s not that im doubting myself entirely, but let’s be realistic. the classes and the caliber of students is MUCH higher. at cornell getting an A at cornell is much harder than getting at A at ASU. </p>
<p>i can pretty much guarantee a 3.9-4.0 at asu (pending some crazy situation) but i can’t feel as confident about getting that same gpa at cornell. asu is much less stressful and the teachers prob expect less from their students. (they have a 97% acceptance rate…)</p>
<p>it doesn’t seem like anyone has a straight answer on this. ive just heard law school admissions is a numbers game. i would much rather go to cornell for the experience and the education, but law school is my ultimate academic goal and id rather go to asu and then be competitive for stanford the cornell and then settle for a law school somewhere else b/c my gpa just isn’t competitive enough. also, going to asu has other benefits not avail to me at cornell so, argh, im just not sure.</p>
<p>OK… seriously… there are at least ten other schools you should take before going to BU Law. And for UChicago, a 3.6+ is fine. Relative to the top 14 law schools, BU isn’t hard to get into at all.</p>
<p>OK, I kind of have something to say about all this even though I’m still a freshman and a long way from applying to LS.</p>
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<li>As flowerhead already said, there are at least 10 universities you should look at before BU.</li>
<li>Not getting into HYS is not going to be the end of the world</li>
<li>The classes may be harder at Cornell, but </li>
<li>Being at Cornell you will be around smarter people who will motivate you to learn more</li>
<li>You will be challenged and likely will enjoy it</li>
<li>Because of the above two factors you might get better grades, (I know that I work harder AND get better grades when challenged rather than taking easy classes)</li>
<li>You will be able to say ‘‘I went to Cornell for undergrad’’</li>
<li>Your GPA is already 3.95??? You only have two more years, even if you get a 3.5 for the other two years, you overall GPA will still be a 3.7+, which still gives you a shot at HYS provided you get a very good LSAT score</li>
<li>It is also possible that you may get a higher LSAT because you learnt more practical materials at Cornell than at ASU</li>
<li>You cannot guarantee anything, meaning you can’t guarantee and simply assume that you’ll get a 3.9 GPA at ASU</li>
<li>As I already said, I wish I could attend a prestigious UG like Cornell or one of the ivies, the only reasons I’m not is because in highschool I was a real slacker and I only recently realized what I want in life. (one of the reasons why I’m considering transfering)</li>
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<p>C’mon man, do it for the intellect and academic pedigree, so few people are lucky enough to attend Cornell. If you had other reasons such as financial reasons then I could understand, but going to ASU because you think you’ll have a better shot at law school is a bit ??? to me. (not trying to hate on less prestigious schools, I go to one lol)</p>
<p>i honestly was not trying to come off annoying or like i was just trying to find an easy way into law school (not sure of the word at the moment). i can tell some of you are irritated with my post and that was not my intention at all. maybe it came off like i was just looking for a formula for law school admissions and im not. i was just worried about jeopardizing a top law school admission. </p>
<p>ive just had so many diff people tell me to go to cornell or go to asu for in order to get into law school and i was really confused. when some ppl tell you “it’s all about your gpa and lsats” that can be a scary when you might head to a rigorous school. </p>
<p>i had NO idea law schools average your gpa. this is a relief, because, like Xptboy said, i do have some room for error. </p>
<p>i would love to go to cornell if i have the opportunity. like i said, i just wanted to make sure i didn’t take the wrong path. </p>
<p>i really didn’t mean to annoy anyone. just confused, that’s all. geez.</p>
<p>stay at asu. it is better to have a 3.9 from asu than to have a 3.7 combo from asu/cornell. even though HYS is possible w/3.7, why risk it? also asu is cheaper i imagine.</p>
<p>@BostonEng: i am not at asu now, will transfer in the fall from cc to either cornell (application pending) or asu (accepted)</p>
<p>as for the money, i was recently awarded a 2010 jack kent cooke undergraduate transfer scholarship (worth up to 30,000) so i should be able to cover the full coa at cornell if they choose to admit me. </p>
<p>your feedback contradicts what everyone else is saying lol.</p>
<p>This is a true statement. However the fallacy in the logic lies in the fact that there is no reason to believe you will receive a 3.7 at Cornell and a 3.9 at ASU.</p>
i was stressing about this so much…</p>