Highly selective LAC's and smaller universities with strong neuroscience & computer science programs

D17 is a rising senior interested in majoring in either neuroscience, comp sci, or both. She is finalizing her reach/target and safety list and wants to make sure she considers all of the best fits for her. She’s targeting NE, Mid-Atlantic, and maybe Midwest, LAC’s and Universities. She’s likes smaller schools so nothing over 10,000, except Cornell at this point Academically, she’s scored a 34 single sitting ACT (may try to superscore a 35 in October), SAT 2’s of 800 Math II, and 750 Bio E, 1460/1520 PSAT with 219 SI so National Merit something, unweighted GPA of 3.8/weighted 4.15 with 6 AP classes, rest honors and will be classified as most rigorous at her very competitive HS. Will be applying EA, ED and RD without need for any financial aid.

Her list of top choices currently includes Bates, Brown, Bowdoin, Carleton, Cornell, Hamilton, Middlebury, Oberlin, Swarthmore, Wesleyan, Williams. Suggestions?

No reason not to take a swing at MIT, where she will have a gender advantage for admission. The rest of the choices look solid, although Middlebury and Oberlin are probably not as strong as the other LAC’s you listed for those designated fields.

Good luck to her!

Thx, she was thinking about applying EA to MIT and Chicago - she knows they are long shots, but… She also wants to continue with Chinese. AP’s include AP Bio, AP Physics, AP Calc AB, AP Comp Sci, AP English Lit, AP Gov.

She may want to go through course catalogs and schedules to see how extensive the junior/senior level offerings in her areas of academic interest are.

Oberlin may not be the strongest in CS, but was the first LAC with a neuroscience major and has produced multiple Nobel laureates in science categories. It’s definitely not weak in that area.

The following link from another thread mentions a few of your schools of interest:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/19416515#Comment_19416515

The computer science offerings at Bates do not currently match what you will find at your other options.

Hamilton’s Chinese program is especially strong.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/19190340/#Comment_19190340 is a list of CS offerings at various smaller schools, including LACs.

@ ucbalumnus, thx

Based upon their involvement in the creation of the Associated Colleges in China program, both Hamilton and Williams appear to be top choices for the study of Chinese:

http://www.chinainsight.info/education/general/231-associafted-colleges-in-china-a-hidden-gem.html

Any insights as to which of the LAC’s I’ve noted are stronger/weaker in neuroscience?

It’s not a LAC or that small, but great for neuroscience and has COOP program in place for CS.

Univerity of Pittsburgh.

CS and neuroscience are in school of Arts and Sciences so combining them should be possible.

You need to visit, great research university and surrounded by several hospitals.

Application opens July 1.

@ColdinMinny why would you single out Middlebury’s neuroscience and CS as being weaker than the others? I don’t know too much about their CS, but their neuroscience is very strong. Besides, their Chinese is the strongest of any of the mentioned schools.

Tufts! A bit bigger than the LACs mentioned but has strong programs.

Middlebury CS is rather limited. I’m fairly certain, remembering from my own search, that Bates does not offer CS.

Amherst is particularly strong in neuroscience (and it also claims to be the first college to offer a neuroscience major)

I know articles like this are fluff, but this site ranked it as the best small college for neuroscience

http://study.com/articles/Best_Neuroscience_Undergraduate_Programs_List_of_Top_Schools.html

Oberlin started its Neuroscience program in 1972, Amherst started in 1973. It’s trivial, but Oberlin wins.

She would probably get money at Case Western. There are around 5K undergrads there.

As more of a safety, perhaps Lafayette, Franklin & Marshall and/or Union. All are excellent in the sciences and offer Chinese.

Oldest son graduated as a neuroscience concentrator at brown. His safety was Pitt bc it has a leading program. He also applied EA to Michigan & uchicago. At the time, Chicago didn’t have a neuro major. You had to major in bio and then later specialize in neuro. While he loved the Chicago vibe and got accepted early, that lack of neuro major made him prefer brown, which has a leading undergrad neuro program. But Chicago just announced a neuro major beginning with the next incoming class. This should help your daughter with acceptance bc I’m sure the admissions committee will be looking for prospective neuro majors.

Other excellent neuro programs at mid-sized U’s include Johns Hopkins & Emory.

Update: Both my DD mentioned, and her twin sister, accomplished their goals of achieving a 35 superscore in September. So now they need to decide where to apply ED 1 - they are much more collaborative than competitive and are generally focused on LAC’s.

My STEM DD has narrowed her list to Brown, Middlebury and Williams with an interest in studying Neuroscience, Biology (maybe molecular), Math and Chinese - any thoughts on which would be best suited for this type of kid

Her twin is a student athlete interested in history, poli sci/international relations/changing the world and environmental science, and has decided on Bowdoin as her ED 1.

Perhaps a look at course catalogs, schedules, and faculty rosters in each subject at each school can give an idea of whether the departments are large enough and offer enough courses to keep her interested if she decides to major in the subject?