<p>And on another note, I'm so sorry for those of you who have to take more than 1 semester of P.E. Frankly, 1 is too many. It's an annoying requirement that gets in the way of my classes. Luckily, my school offers bowling for P.E., so at least I can take a semi-fun class.</p>
<p>NY is most certainly not the most difficult in terms of grad. req's.</p>
<p>The regents' are a joke. Seriously.
Anyone who can't pass those doesn't need to be graduating anyway...
I took math A in 8th grade with a 94, math B in 10th (99... grrr 1 point). It's truly SAD that some students can't get past math A.</p>
<p>For those who don't know the whole math a/math b bull, math A is the equivalent of algebra I and some geometry and other random-ness (some stats, some probability, and right-angle trig), math b covers the rest of geometry, algebra II, and basic trig such as law of sins/cos and graphing of said functions (and again with some other random bits here and there).
If one can graduate after getting past the A level (some only take the exam after 11th grade), and therefore has no algebra II, that's some seriously easy grad. req.
As to the other regents exams, they may not be easy to do well on for everyone, but they are designed so that as few people fail them as possible.</p>
<p>Some states that work on block scheduling require 32 credits to graduate (and yes, that is 1.0 credit per normal class), where as ny is only 22 (that may be off by one or two or so based on level of diploma).</p>
<p>32 credits.Ha. That would be a joke at my school. We have to have 50 to graduate, and they are increasing it to 52 for my graduating class, and we DON'T have block scheduling. This means most students spend alot of time in summer school, and taking zero hour courses, and for me no break because I'm trying to take 4 APs and 3 honors courses. This is just for graduating without honors, but most students opt for honors.</p>
<p>To be equivalent to the 1 credit system, my school's minimum requirement is 22. </p>
<p>In my school's system, it's 220(10 credits per class). I have 225 credit, or 22.5.</p>
<p>My school has block scheduling. 4 non-alternating classes a day, unless its finals.</p>
<p>52?????</p>
<p>That's 13 credits a year- how is that possible?
Where do you live?</p>
<p>4 years English
3 years Math
4 years foreign language (counting middle school, so really two)
3 years social studies (World --> American I --> American II/AP required)
3 years science
1 semester P.A. (Project Adventure = P.E.)
1 semester "Health & Wellness" (a.k.a. "A Giant Waste of Time")
2 sports credits (1 credit= playing a season-long sport. You can't earn more than one credit per year, though, so even if you play soccer, hockey, and LAX, you only earn one credit... not three.)</p>
<p>You also need to pass a stupid state exam. It's notoriously easy, though.</p>
<p>The 52 credits a year must be on some sort of a different scale. Perhaps they count a semester as one credit or something. In the traditional sense, it's not possible unless they have at least 13 periods in the school day.</p>
<p>yeahhh 52 credits a year makes no sense. i thought most people get 5 credits a semester, and 10 credits for an entire class?</p>
<p>im not sure who told NY only requires 22 credits to graduate
but its 44 credits buddy</p>
<p>8 english
8 history
6 math
6 science
art,music,keyboarding
2 foreign languages
7 semesters if Gym
1 health
6 electives</p>
<p>so yea NY has the most high school requirements than any other state</p>
<p>yea u claim math a/b is so easy, maybe dats bcuz ur a nerd and ignorant
to average students
Newyork city(where im from) has like the highest failing rates in high schools</p>
<p>ish, you're just plain wrong. You're calculating it by semesters, when NY calculates by "units"</p>
<p>go here for proof: <a href="http://www.insideschools.org/st/ST_gradreqs.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.insideschools.org/st/ST_gradreqs.php</a></p>
<p>that's 22.5 for a regents diploma, 25.5 for an advanced</p>
<p>"yea u claim math a/b is so easy, maybe dats bcuz ur a nerd and ignorant
to average students"</p>
<p>Did I ever say it was actually easy? No. I said it was easy to PASS. (I may be a nerd, but I am most certainly not "ignorant to average students.")
I stand by what I said- one has no place graduating if one cannot pass math A. NY makes it far too easy for people to graduate. (NYC has always had the worst general pass/fail rates, that is nothing new).</p>
<p>Also, I will repeat what I said- NY does NOT have the "most high school requirements."</p>
<p>Johnson181: A person can't graduate if they can't pass Math A. I still believe NY has some of the toughest requirements. Maybe they don't require the most classes, but for the classes they require they have a "final" that you must pass. Very few states have those. Also, many schools in NY require you to take more classes than the state does--for example, my school requires 6 classes plus PE. Yes, some Regents are easy to pass, like Math A, but there are also ones that aren't so easy. They have to make it somewhat easy, though, because what good would it be to have all these requirements if it results in an exceedingly low graduation rate?</p>
<p>I know you need to pass math A to graduate. I've just heard far too many people claim that it's near impossble; I stand by what I said- if you cannot pass it, you have no place graduating.</p>
<p>What regents exams that are required that are actually as challenging as you claim?</p>
<p>I cannot think of one. There is the english, one history (although most high schools make you take both), one science (2 is only <em>needed</em> for the advanced), and math A.</p>
<p>Now, I would just like to note that getting the honors advanced regents diploma is by no means "easy," but the base line, basic regents diploma is a joke.</p>
<p>So to imply that NY is the state that is most difficult to graduate from is just misinformed. However, I fully believe that if you make the most out of a NY education, you can be far above most other states.</p>
<p>I didn't claim that the required Regents were extremely challenging, just not as easy as Math A. Despite the fact that you believe Regents are a joke, what other state requires you to take 22-some credits, pass those classes, and pass a statewide final exam? Also, I didn't say NY was the most difficult to graduate from. Despite your assertions, you haven't mentioned a state that is more difficult to graduate from. Your belief that Regents are very easy to pass also seems biased--apparently they aren't a problem for you, but that doesn't mean some students that aren't as smart and might not receive the same quality education do have trouble passing some of them. (I will give you Math A as a ridiculously easy Regents, though. On one test, a 41 was considered passing.)</p>
<p>However, they are revising the math curriculum, so it doesn't really matter about Math A & B. They're instituting 3 new 1-year courses...and I'm assuming you have to pass the end of the year Regents for each to graduate. It needed to be done...the difference in difficulty between Math A and Math B was ridiculous.</p>
<p>Personally, I don't believe states should be compared for "difficulty"- they are all too different to compare and thus the argument is kind of useless to say that NY is the most difficult; that is why I didn't list any other state.</p>
<p>Last year, when I heard about them changing the math A/B curriculum to go back to the sequential series (although its not the same as how it was pre-A/B, currect?) I was pretty happy to hear it. I completely agree- the difference between the two is too much and has some completely weird jumps (ie starting trig in math a, waiting a year or so and then going back).</p>
<p>For the record, I do not live in NY. And also, I would like to add that NY is most certainly much, much more difficult than many states public systems such as in MS, LA, AL, etc. But that is only what I know and appears to be.</p>
<p>Random question- didn't California once require the same regents exams? Or is that just the rumor mill that lives on?</p>
<p>Johnson181,
If NY does not have the hardest graduation requirements, which other state does?
I do not think you could call the NY chemistry regents a joke, along MathB (or physics from what I heard). Although I did do very well on the chemistry regents, and decently well on the Math B, it is moderately hard for many others.</p>
<p>I just said I don't think you can compare states that way.</p>
<p>Either one state may require more classes than one would think, or one state may not but may have more difficult finals.
Dependent on what type of student one is, one could find either system to be more difficult (either number of classes is ridiculously stressful yet they can handle the final or vice versa).</p>
<p>Now, to get on to what you said about chemistry.
It's not required, therefore is NOT a graduation requirement. Same for Math B and physics.</p>
<p>Now, I have never taken the chem regents, so I really cannot comment on it other that that I know people who've come out of it with perfect scores and people who've come out literally crying (70's).</p>
<p>As for the new 3-year math curriculum, I'm not sure if it's the same as pre-A&B. It's apparently very similar, but I don't really know since it doesn't affect me at all. </p>
<p>I have heard that rumor about California, but from what I've read in this thread it doesn't appear that they do that anymore. Maybe it is just the rumor mill. </p>
<p>Chemistry technically could be a graduation requirement since a science is necessary but the course isn't specified. I think most people fulfill that requirement with Earth Science, though. Also, a lot of people end up taking either the Chem or Physics Regents anyway because three years of science are required. And at least in my school, you can't avoid taking the Regents at the end of the course because it counts as a final--it doesn't matter if you've already taken 1 or 2 science Regents. Could be different in other schools.</p>
<p>Well is true that all states have different or similiar requirements to graduate
but i can tell u this, highschools in florida are much easier to graduate than in newyork, there are quite a few other states that have less strict requirements also</p>
<p>My school in Michigan has these requirements, which frankly, I think are pretty stupid:</p>
<p>One credit is a full year, and without summer school, independent study or community service credit it's possible to get 6 credits per year. There are tons of extremely stupid prerequisite classes that keep motivated people from taking too many advanced classes. The counselors and people who decide this stuff basically think that we can't handle the workload of a couple APs a year. A lot of you people don't know how lucky you are to not have to deal with this.</p>
<p>4 credits English (two required classes, one can be tested out of/not taken by TAG - "Talented and Gifted" kids (like me))
3 credits each Math, Science, and Social Studies (Science - one year biological, one year geophysical, the latter can be tested out of; Math - lots of stupid prerequisites for upper level classes, but no classes required; Social Studies - two required classes (US History and Political and Economic Systems), US History can be not taken by the TAG kids and substituted by APUSH)
2 credits combined vocational, life management, arts/music, foreign languages, and business
.5 credits Computers (either Apps or Programming)
1 credit Physical Education (half a year of Personal Fitness (swimming, weightlifting, jogging), half a year of one of many classes; the later can be substituted be three years of a sport)
.5 credits Health
.5 credits Human Relations (stupid "Breathing with Children" classes)
4.5 credits electives</p>
<p>So you guys in New York may have more requirements, but we have more ridiculous requirements.</p>
<p>I'm from Michigan as well, so I have similar requirements at my school:</p>
<p>4 years of English
3 years of Math (one year of Algebra, one year of Geometry, and one year of another math course)
3 years of Social Studies (1/2 year of Economics, 1/2 year of Goverment, 1 year of Global Issues/Geography, and 1 year of US History)
3 years of Science (1 year of Biology required)
2 years of Vocational, Fine and Performing Arts, or Foreign Language
1/2 year of Physical Education
1/2 year of Health
200 hours of Out-of-Class Experience (working, volunteering, etc.)</p>