Honest Q/A with Current McGill student!!

<p>@Blobof</p>

<p>Thanks again for your reply. I guess I will start some 300 level courses like Probability, Statistics, and Stochastic Process(Heck, I have been looking forward to this course for so long that I must crack it, it simply stops me from reading advanced Macroeconomics and Finance without the knowledge and it’s hard to grasp on my own). But you’re right, other courses might be too abstract for a U1 students without mathematical sophistication. </p>

<p>I also wonder about two questions(ah, students just prompt out irregularly)</p>

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<li><p>Are 500-level courses graduate courses or just advanced undergraduate courses? It seems like Master students are recommended to take them but I can see 600-level look more like graduate courses. Are there a lot of undergraduate students taking them?</p></li>
<li><p>What’s the class size of an average 300 level course like probability, analysis III ?</p></li>
<li><p>I bet I will do a Joint Honors Component in math rather than a straight honor. The joint one has 36 credits, which are equivalent to like 12 courses on average. What if I want to do more, like 45 credits in math for example? Will I be allowed to do so and how are those extra credits treated in terms of graduation requirement. Will they put the extra 9 credits into the elective basket?</p></li>
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<p>Hi!
I had a question about the interfaculty of arts and science, I tried to find more information about it on the website but couldn’t find much…</p>

<p>Does anyone know how good is it? Is it basically like taking a double major?
Is it well recognized in the US (for graduate schools for example)?</p>

<p>Thanks a lot !!</p>

<p>try this: [Bachelor</a> of Arts and Science](<a href=“http://coursecalendar.mcgill.ca/UndergraduateOnline200405-08-1.html]Bachelor”>Bachelor of Arts and Science)</p>

<p>Personally, I don’t think it makes any difference whether you’re inter-faculty or simply art. </p>

<p>At the end of the day, it’s courses you have taken and people/professors you have confronted that shape you, not the title of your course. Simply put, if you were a math major and did all these honor math courses, I don’t see any necessity to declare honor unless you wanna gain a slight advantage in internal grad school admission. People outside this school, especially in the States don’t care. Having said that, you can always take science class even if you are an art major, and vice versa. So there isn’t any significant difference.</p>

<p>I’ve been offered BA econs. program from McGill and UBC and I’m an Asian international student. Which university is a better choice for me?I’m interested in doing postgrad in econs after graduation. I have heard that UBC has a higher ranking in econs program than McGill, whats your comment. In terms of employ-ability , which one ranks better in Canada or US? Most grateful if you could kindly reply as soon as possible as the last date of acceptance is very near. Thanks</p>

<p>The graduate program in economics is definitely better at UBC. UBC, U of T, and Queens have the best grad programs in econ in Canada. Sorry, I don’t know what the undergrad programs are like.</p>

<p>The best preparation for graduate studies in economics is a math degree. The admissions committees at the best economics grad schools care relatively little about your undergrad training in econ, but look very carefully at your math courses to ensure that you can handle the math required in a PhD in econ. Be certain to take Real Analysis at the undergrad level, along with a pile of other math courses. </p>

<p>The McGill name is better known in the northeastern US (where many jobs are), but major employers should know that UBC is very strong for math/econ (UBC’s best math students are comparable to the best math students at Duke, Maryland, Virginia, U Mich but not as strong as Harvard, MIT, CalTech, or Princeton).</p>

<p>Given that you are planning graduate studies (and maybe post-graduate or do you have the two confused?), your employers will be far more interested in what graduate school you attended than in what undergrad school you attended.</p>

<p>If I were planning to do graduate studies in econ, I would probably choose UBC over McGill for my undergrad degree, but, of course, there are many other factors that go into a decision.</p>

<p>@h2088h
We are essentially in the same shoes. I believe the two programs are practically the same. They both offer two-semester long Intermediate Micro/Macro/Metric courses after the intro level, in contrast to the US System which generally offers only one-semester intermediate course except MIT, but that’s a very different case cuz they offer way harder journal reading materials in their second course. </p>

<p>In addition to the math mentioned by violindad, graduate course and research experience are both important elements that you want to consider. I would say, as an undergraduate, the two school won’t make a great difference for you.The important thing is, you want to have a wonderful college experience, I would say McGill will win by a big margin in this dimension.</p>

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<li><p>500-level courses are graduate courses. In math they are worth usually 4 credits (instead of 3). However, undergraduates are allowed to take 500-level courses without extra requirements if they have the prereqs. For 600 or 700 level courses, an undergraduate would need a special permission, even with the pre-requisite courses.</p></li>
<li><p>It depends on the course. MATH 323 (major probability) in the fall can be 100+ students (it’s required in many other science programs). MATH 356 (honours prob) and MATH 354 (Analysis III) maybe 20-30, 40 tops.</p></li>
<li><p>Which joint honours are you thinking about? But yes, you’re allowed to take more than the minimum required, as long as you have the basic requirements for your other component(s). I had way more math credits than I needed in the end (and 2 more credits than required for the degree, since I took 2 500-level courses in my last semester), but just enough computer science credits for my minor. I double-counted the maximum 6 credits in both programs (major and minor, though for the degree, credits only count once), though I could have simply counted two math courses for my CS minor (but those had to be courses that are part/allowed in the CS minor).</p></li>
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<p>@Blobof:</p>

<p>Thanks for your reply. </p>

<p>So you didn’t have to take as many electives since you did enough math major/honour credits? (or even zero elective as you mention you did just Math+CS?) </p>

<p>I am considering joint honours in Math and Econ(I am admitted into the Faculty of Art) but I am not quite sure now given the structure of the Econ program. But I might just do a major Econ(taking honours sections of core courses and ignoring something less important I believe) + Honours math. I don’t find the title thingy that important as long as I learn the stuff in the way I like.</p>

<p>I took a grand total of 3 courses outside of math and CS, including “Moons for goons” and “Clap for credits”.</p>

<p>If I were you I’d do the joint honours, or an honours math with a minor in econ (again, you can take more courses in the minor than you need, and the honours version if you have the grades). I don’t think the system (or your advisor) will let you do single honours + major (they are separate tiers).</p>

<p>@Blobof</p>

<p>I don’t like the honours version of Econ cuz the curriculum has way too many required but “not-so-useful” classes compared to that of many top schools in the US and I already know a lot of materials covered at undergraduate level. [No offense, but that’s what my cousin at MIT agreed as well]</p>

<p>Econ grad school in the US are very competitive. In addition to harsh math requirements, they also consider a lot of factors.</p>

<p>I do need Letter"sss" of Recommendation, research experience, some proofs of my Econ competence(like Grad School level courses), and determination of my interest(s).</p>

<p>So I must start with the honours to get all these, but here’ s a possible solution but I don’t know whether it works or not:</p>

<p>Is it possible to change honours into minor in the end? </p>

<p>This sounds tricky and might possibly offend the professors. I don’t know whether it’s a good idea, what do you think?</p>

<p>You can switch from joint honours to single honours with a minor later on. I’ve seen really smart people do that. I can tell you of one who went from joint honours math/CS to honours math with minor in CS because after a couple of years computer science was not as interesting and too tedious compared to math (that guy took 700-level number theory in his second undergrad year, because the 300 level one is only offered every other year and you can’t take it in your first…). He went on to do a PhD at MIT and now is a prof in Australia I believe. </p>

<p>Don’t worry about offending profs, changing and focussing interests through your undergrad years is normal. You don’t want to change program every semester obviously, but the programs are set up so that you have time to choose which branch to focus on as you progress. The core courses are the same for minor/major and usually honours as well (at least the first course, e.g. Algebra I, Analysis I), so you have at least a year to figure out where you really want to go.</p>

<p>@Blobof</p>

<p>Thanks a lot for the remark!</p>

<p>I would try exploring as many as possible before I find my enthusiasm - I guess and hope that’s what college is probably about.</p>

<p>I have two questions
i am an American student that got accepted to the faculty of sciences but i honestly have no idea what i want to study so i am nervous to come to mcgill because i thought that the system is much different and there is no such thing as undecided at mcgill, and i was wondering the rigidity switching between faculties and taking different types of classes also
I know that people have mentioned this before but could
someone generalize all the people in each rez for me
some of the posts have seemed contradictory to me
i would really appreciate it
Thanks!</p>

<p>Hello Blobof and violindad,</p>

<p>Thank you for all your help earlier this month. I got in touch with someone in math who put me in touch with someone else who gave me credit/exemption from MATH 222 (Multivariable calc) and 314 (Advanced Calc) but not 247 (Honours Advanced Calc). If I were to decide to take the honours stat track later on, would I need to take 247 even though I already have credit for 314, or would they give me half credit or something?</p>

<p>Edit: Just saw Blobof’s earlier post which answered my question. Thanks again!</p>

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<p>I had Professor Heekyoung Hahn for Algebra 1 and 2 this year and I can say that I was extremely disappointed. She is a good professor and seems very interested in what she teaches. However, she made her classes EXTREMELY easy (A- average in Algebra 2). This may be a good thing for some people, but I prefer to have a professor who challenges their students. </p>

<p>Like someone mentioned before, Klemes is a great teacher, but very monotone. It is very likely you will fall asleep if the class is early in the morning. </p>

<p>The same thing can be said for Anderson. It is useless to attend his lectures because all he does is read his notes off the projector (he posts his notes online).</p>

<p>Dear econgrad,</p>

<p>with no bias could you answer a very important question keeping various factors in mind?</p>

<p>Which do you think is the best university among UBC, Mcgill, UOFT, Schulich school of business (York), Richard Ivey school of business (Western Ontario) considering the following:</p>

<ol>
<li>I wish to get into investment banking</li>
<li>Excellent recruitment in the finance sector</li>
<li>Excellent Finance department</li>
<li>Decent residence </li>
<li>Good extracurriculars (Tennis, Basketball and some music)
6.Recognised in US.</li>
</ol>

<p>Thank you
Sorry for the trouble.</p>

<p>Which one*</p>

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<li>for undergrad </li>
<li>including queens and waterloo as well.</li>
</ol>

<p>Can the university allow a genius to do four bachelor’s in three years? Are there any incontestables rules that specify a limit of credits per term?</p>

<p>prinki94</p>

<p>I would say Richard Ivey is the best, then Queens, then McGill for investment banking. Discard all the other schools. Richard Ivey is particularly well represented on Bay Street, so that is a bonus.</p>

<p>Now, none of the canadian schools has strong ties to Wall St. So if you want to work on Wall St, it will be up to you individually and not so much the school and it will be difficult. But all of the major banks will recruit at all of these schools, so you will at least have a chance. Then it is up to you to nail the interview, and nail the 2nd round against the Harvards, Yallies and Whartons.</p>