Hopefully Oxford....?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hi,</p>

<p>I am a rising senior and I am interested in applying to the University of Oxford(the one in England, not Emory) and I would like to know my chances. I know that international applicants have it particularly tough in admissions, but still, can't know 'till you try!</p>

<p>My SAT score is 2260, along with 790 in bio, 740 in Math 2(retaking it though), 770 in USH, and possibly adding Chemistry to it.</p>

<p>My current AP scores are 5 in USH, 4 in both english tests (literature and language). Although this seems a little lax, I am actually signed up for a TON of other AP's senior year, including: Chem, Calc AB, Econ(Micro and Macro), Bio, Stat, Psych, and possibly World History if I'm up to it.</p>

<p>I don't know how much extracurriculars count, but I am currently the vice principal of a Korean school, a teacher at a music camp, and a Visiting researcher at Yale University Med School.( in which I am currently working and being co-authored on two papers, both of which will be presented at the next American Nephrology Association meetings to apply for Young Researcher grants).</p>

<p>I am currently on the Varsity Fencing team (3rd), and was part of a Marching band that played for Obama's inaugural parade. </p>

<p>My grades show a nice curve upwards (at first I was nonchalant about school until I got my act together-which coincidentally is a topic for my commonapp essay!) Went from 2 B and a B+ to straight A's. </p>

<p>I have attended ESL (immigrants FTW) and probably will take the TOEFL sometime soon.</p>

<p>I attend Hopkins School (19th best private school in the country-according to Forbes at least O.o)</p>

<p>My college counselor tells me I should try for it, that my stats are good enough to be competitive, if not get a spot with the conditional acceptance.</p>

<p>I probably forgot something important in all of that self-glorifying talk (which makes me seem like an egotistical prat) but will probably add it as soon as it comes to mind. </p>

<p>Thanks for the input guys,
Much appreciated.</p>

<p>PS will also be applying to HPY - you know, the usual bunch.</p>

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<p>I’m applying to Cambridge - it’s hard to get in to either Oxford or Cambridge as an international student, especially from the U.S., but there’s no reason not to try. </p>

<p>My guess would be conditional acceptance, possibly dependent on your AP Chem and Bio scores (it looks like you’re a science person?), but this really depends on the course you apply for. Best of luck!</p>

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<p>@lagrandejatte</p>

<p>Yes, I plan on applying to Oxford’s Medicine course (for which I will also have to take their Biomedical Exam - might be a bit of a challenge as they are mostly only hosted in the UK). I honestly have no idea how competitive the college is to other colleges, seeing as everyone is going into the Classics, Economics, and Engineering at Oxbridge. I’m sure it’s pretty competitive but still…there is still “wiggle room” for me. </p>

<p>What college/course are you applying for in Cambridge? And would you mind sharing your stats with me?</p>

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<p>I haven’t decided quite yet on the course - probably econ (which slims down the chances a little, I know), but quite possibly engineering. That would affect the school. I would most likely apply to Trinity for the econ.</p>

<p>My stats are on this thread: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1185635-chances-stanford-wharton-uchicago-hyp.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1185635-chances-stanford-wharton-uchicago-hyp.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I don’t think European schools care about extra curriculars. You just need to have really high grades and test scores. And have an affinity for tea.</p>

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<p>@Typhon</p>

<p>Yea, that’s what I heard… which kind of sucks to be honest because I actually spent a lot of effort on extra curricular activities and community service stuff (some of which I didn’t add :O) like Habitat for Humanity, Breakthrough, and a charity I hosted…</p>

<p>Hopefully they will still look at them though. A least it’ll help when applying to colleges at home…</p>

<p>@lagrandejatte</p>

<p>Wow! Very impressive. I’m pretty sure you are guaranteed a spot at Yale, probably Princeton and Harvard too. I’m a bit jealous of your scores though ;)</p>

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<p>I applied to both Cambridge and Oxford, PM me if you need help.
By the way, you have to ace the BMAT. Your ECs are irrelevant, such as Korean school.</p>

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<p>I am a rising senior and I am interested in applying to the University of Oxford(the one in England, not Emory) and I would like to know my chances. I know that international applicants have it particularly tough in admissions, but still, can’t know 'till you try!
-Sure, give it a try.</p>

<p>My SAT score is 2260, along with 790 in bio, 740 in Math 2(retaking it though), 770 in USH, and possibly adding Chemistry to it.
-US History won’t matter at this point. You have three strong ones: Math 2, Bio, and Chem. Good.</p>

<p>My current AP scores are 5 in USH, 4 in both english tests (literature and language). Although this seems a little lax, I am actually signed up for a TON of other AP’s senior year, including: Chem, Calc AB, Econ(Micro and Macro), Bio, Stat, Psych, and possibly World History if I’m up to it.
-5 in USH doesn’t matter. It’s irrelevant to your course. The English tests won’t matter either. Don’t take Econ and World History. You need Bio, Stats, Psych, Calc, and Chem. That is the perfect mix for Oxbridge Medicine.</p>

<p>I don’t know how much extracurriculars count, but I am currently the vice principal of a Korean school, a teacher at a music camp, and a Visiting researcher at Yale University Med School.( in which I am currently working and being co-authored on two papers, both of which will be presented at the next American Nephrology Association meetings to apply for Young Researcher grants).
-ALL of that is irrelevant, except the visiting researcher thing.</p>

<p>I am currently on the Varsity Fencing team (3rd), and was part of a Marching band that played for Obama’s inaugural parade.
-Irrelevant.</p>

<p>My grades show a nice curve upwards (at first I was nonchalant about school until I got my act together-which coincidentally is a topic for my commonapp essay!) Went from 2 B and a B+ to straight A’s.
-No one cares. Oxbridge applicants do not need to submit their transcript; but counselor recommendation should perhaps explain the rigor of your coursework along with your rank; that will help. (By the way Cambridge wants transcript starting this year, sorry)</p>

<p>I have attended ESL (immigrants FTW) and probably will take the TOEFL sometime soon.
(Doesn’t matter)</p>

<p>I attend Hopkins School (19th best private school in the country-according to Forbes at least O.o)
(Doesn’t matter)</p>

<p>My college counselor tells me I should try for it, that my stats are good enough to be competitive, if not get a spot with the conditional acceptance.
(Right now, you don’t really have strong APs. My guess is that you should ace the interview and have more standardized tests in the bank. I am sorry to say most of your ECs are irrelevant, and medicine is the most competitive course in Oxbridge. They pick around 3-5 international students, so I think you should try a different course.
By the way, BMAT is much harder than AP Bio. Too bad you don’t have AP Bio and Chem knowledge yet.</p>

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<p>@eastcoastochse
Well its not that I don’t know AP Bio, I just wasn’t able to take the AP in the past year due to some financial problems. I am going to take AP Chem next year though, which might be a problem if the test is as hard as you say.</p>

<p>Do you think that I might still have a shot at conditional acceptance if I do apply? Because the only reason I am applying overseas is because of their medical program, i.e. you can start relevant classes right away. I really don’t have any interest in other colleges, as I’d much rather stay stateside for any other majors.</p>

<p>I actually know a couple of people who got into Oxbridge medicine with stats about the same level as mine, and they have been helping me with the application process. </p>

<p>I just want to get all the opinions I can so that if it does seem unlikely, I won’t have to use valuable time and resources into working a futile cause. </p>

<p>I’ve actually found some BMAT practice tests, so I’m going to see how well I do on those. Possibly I might be able to learn the information that I don’t know before the test date.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>My only worry is that you do not have so many APs in your bank.
Why Oxford and not Cambrige, would be my second question.</p>

<p>Also, most applicants receive conditional offers, it is verry rare that someone gets an unconditional.</p>

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<p>I know that I need to work on my stats a little bit more before I apply, but is there anything more that I could do to help my chances any more? I would appreciate all the suggestions that I can get!</p>

<p>I’ve also been looking at the BMAT tests from previous years, and I can already answer 70-80% of the questions correctly already so I am optimistic about the test.</p>

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<p>Just add as many tests as you can in your test bank.
Also, read a lot about the subject.</p>

<p>ECs don’t really matter :(</p>

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<p>Yes I know EC’s don’t matter, UNLESS they are relevant to your course! :slight_smile: so I can still use my lab research and papers in my app!</p>

<p>Tests might be a bit iffy so I will probably just hope for the conditional acceptance :P</p>

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You are all set. Best of luck. UCAS isn’t so difficult, by the way.</p>

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<p>At the Oxford / U Edinburgh road show (Sept 2011) the Oxford rep said that their intake of foreign students into medicine is capped at <strong>7</strong> people annually, and that it was basically extremely difficult to be accepted. You might want to reconsider. If your goal is to get into a medical school you might have better luck at College of Physicians and Surgeons in Dublin.</p>

<p>And btw, the poster who said that they applied to both Cambridge and Oxford left something out- they either applied to O & C in different years, or for different programs (ie, undergraduate and graduate): you are not allowed to apply to both as an undergraduate in the same year.</p>