<p>^Those words only come out of ones mouth if they feel defeated and cannot find a comeback argument to prezomar’s constructive and truthful anaylsis.</p>
<p>Bravo, Prezomar!</p>
<p>AEDSH has been around FOREVER but HADES is rather brilliant, indeed.
All the top schools are pretty much on par with each other, no doubt.</p>
<p>prezomar, thanks for the lists. The more helpful info on BS’s, the better. It is pitiful, however, when others, who will not counter your info with additional info or reasoned arguments, reduce themselves to name calling. Such reaction demeans their positions and themselves. If posters refuse to share on CC some degree of understanding, information and experiences about BS’s, all in good spirit and good faith, then they should consider leaving this forum and finding another outlet for their personal attacks against others.</p>
<p>Thanks guys.</p>
<p>Oh and by I thought I better counter your snide comment about hotchkiss being over 100 years younger than the other HADES schools.
Firstly since when is 1856 ( St. Pauls founding date) 100 years earlier than 1891 Hotchkiss’ founding date … methinks your arithmetic is off. Try to get your facts straight mate …</p>
<p>Furthermore being older does not necessarily mean being superior. If we go by that logic then the King’s School, Ely in England which was found in 970 is superior to all the HADES schools, Eton, Westminster, St. Pauls (London), and a host of similar institutions.</p>
<p>Furthermore numerous institutions were founded in 1891 (Ie Stanford and Caltech) and yet somehow they still manage be superb institutions. Perhaps their relative youthfulness did not hinder them at all from being on par to older institutions such as MIT and Harvard. Schools that are older than these two fine institutions (Stanford and Caltech) include: William and Mary, Cornell, UVA, and occidental college. Age is not everything. Nor is prestige. I say education and fit above all else.</p>
<p>But I am tired of this nonsensical debate. So alas i resign back to my good 'ol Homework…</p>
<p>For someone whose screen name is “NoDrama” you have certainly stirred up a lot of drama. You and hyenoy anyhow … or are you the same person ?</p>
<p>If you would prefer me to give a local example of an old institution then The Governor’s Academy (MA) which is founded in 1763 is older than all of the HADES institutions. So what now I suppose according to your logic we should all be clamoring to get in … it must be superior no ?</p>
<p>Christopher Hitchens always says " I always think it’s a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem."</p>
<p>First of all, I’m not NoDrama, and I’m beginning to think that you have some kind of an inferiority complex or something. The thread I was posting on was called
‘Hotchkiss or Deerfield,’ and what do you expect people to post? What a great school Hotchkiss is above all other school? HAHA. I don’t know how people can stand your (and toombs) phony attitude of defining people who stand up for Hotchkiss excited and motivated when you put down others who are excited for their own school. No need to list all the alums of H to make it look better, :D</p>
<p>Ok you did a pretty good job finding the categories in which H issuperior over other AEDS schools.
I beg to differ on the SAT scores though. Where did you get that info? what it even 2009? Cause from what I’m seeing now, It doesn’t have higher SAT than Deerfield, as well as it being unreasonable to compare it to Andover, with more than 1200 kids.
and please give us the RECORDS that goes with your assertions. For example the acceptance rate. Notable alumni looks good for the school, but I believe it doesn’t stand out more significantly than any other top schools.
I see you didn’t state the College Matriculation, Financial Aid, Acceptance Rate, Yield, etc. which many would care to know before they begin to think Hotchkiss is the best school in the world, after listening to your one-sided opinion.</p>
<p>One clarification (I’ve found this necessary to do on CC, since if left unaddressed, people assume that postings are accurate)…Choate’s debate team won the Hotchkiss Invitational this year :). </p>
<p>Really, the bottom line is that it is the lucky student who gets to attend any of these schools. I think there are similar long lists of accomplishments and notable alumnae from all of the many schools discussed on CC. Congrats Prezomar on going to a wonderful school, but those of us with affiliations at other schools are equally thrilled about their own schools (as it should be), and there is ample room for us all.</p>
<p>That’s true. Choate won mostly because of me actually. I came in near the bottom of the rankings and brought the whole team down. I also very uncharacteristically lost every single one of my matches. I was a novice back then. In terms of the advanced debaters Hotchkiss won a clean sweep. the novices are what tipped the tournament to Choate and even then we lost by one match. However at the Advanced level it was a clean sweep none of our advanced debaters lost to choate debaters. To be concise we had the best debaters at the tournament but the novices brought us down. Choate was a worthy opponent obviously - particularly for our novice debaters.</p>
<p>However the real crown of debate is the internationals and worlds that everyone in debate agrees is the most important tournament. </p>
<p>In that Hotchkiss debaters came in with the Number one American speakers and number one American school in internationals 94th best speaker overall) and the number one American speaker in worlds and number two in worlds overall. For the third year in a row the top debater at Worlds was a member of the Hotchkiss team. At the very highest level we dominate. </p>
<p>Choate is however a superb school. I never said anything to the contrary. I agree with you, there is room for all of us and we should all be happy going to the school that “fits” us best instead of trying to tear each others schools down. If you did that at boarding school people would laugh at you. I never put down other schools I only responded to those who attempted to put down mine ie hyenhoy and Nodrama who are obviously trying to pull their own schools up in the process.</p>
<p>Hmmm. When did a person calling another human being “pathetic” and “crazy” become the same thing as just a person being “excited about their school”? If these two things are now the same thing in soneone’s Alice-in-Wonderland universe, when did being excited about one’s school become an excuse for name calling and personal attacks? </p>
<p>Whoops. I just used that just rotten old “reasoning skill crap” here, and I know how much hyeonhoy hates reasoning. (See post #27 on the “Hotchkiss or Deerfield” thread.) </p>
<p>Also, please, hyoenhoy, don’t tell me how pathetic it is that I spent time refuting a poor little ole 8th grader like you. You have alredy used that one so effectively. (See post #29 “Hotchkiss or Deerfield” thread.) If you don’t want responses to or refutations of your posts, stay off CC. When you get them, please don’t whine about others being pathetic because they question your position. You are just lowering yourself to pitiful name calling. Looks bad for you and your position. I know that you can do better.</p>
<p>Try some good will, good spirits, good logic and good arguments. It will do you good.</p>
<p>I just read hyeonhoy most recent post. (Post 27.) Good job. No name calling. Marshalling facts. Nice counter. Well done. Thanks.</p>
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<li>i meant 4th best speaker overall in internationals not 94th Opps ! </li>
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<p>But anyhow I think we should have constructive discussion not divisive tearing down other people’s schools. </p>
<p>I for instance love choate because of its superb drama courses and offerings. It has been argued, rather convincingly that Choate is the perennial producer of successful actors among boarding schools. </p>
<p>I for one subscribe to that position. Let us look for the good in each others schools. Everyone try to think of 3 nice things to say about all the others schools. lets give it a try and see what we come up with. I’ll start:</p>
<p>SPS: I love the fact that you guys have a certain degree of freedom not found in many other NE schools. </p>
<p>Deerfield: Well you guys are our biggest competitors when it comes to certain sports like football. So I like the fact that you guys put up a fight and have a good sports program. I also like the fact that you have turned your focus to the sciences recently with your wonderful edition of the large koch center for the sciences. One of, if not the best science building among NE schools.</p>
<p>Exeter: well my first girl friend in america went to exeter so that’s a plus. Plus one of my greatest heros Daniel webster is an exeter grad so that’s a plus. I also love the fact that you guys are the perennial powerhouse when it comes to math. Good on you.</p>
<p>Andover: Oh what can i say ? When Hotchkiss was founded they bascially just took half of our class from andover as well as andover’s number 2 man (the head of the department of greek) to found the school as well as a whole host of teachers etc from Yale with the backing of Yale President Timothy Dwight. Plus we both have our Yale thing going on. So because of our shared history and common vernacular etc I find that very attractive.</p>
<p>Also I find that Andover’s ties to the political arena rather impressive - though I disagree ideologically with essentially every single one of them. </p>
<p>NMH: I love the laid back attitude of the school system - ie no one strike policy i believe - and the fact that all NMH kids I have met are incredibly humble. </p>
<p>And that’s that you give it a go !</p>
<p>@toombs: oh I see there were some confusion here, I love being refuted, since it gets me thinking. It’s the reason why I come to CC. Maybe I should’ve considered Hotchkss for its debate team. One more thing, I like reasoning skills. I just didn’t like how you were ‘personally attcking( which you thought was silly)’ me by mentioning my reasoning skills.
@prezomar:Again, the objective of the thread was “Hotchkiss vs.Deerfield,.”</p>
<p>It is an absolutely beautiful Saturday here in Southern New England. I’m wondering why current prep school students are spending the day on a “Prep School Admissions” forum instead of being outside, playing frisbee, flirting with each other, studying for exams, eating ice cream, packing to get ready to go home for the summer, angling for tickets to the Cold Play concert this weekend…just saying.</p>
<p>There is a light drizzle outside … so that’s why i am not out. Most of my exams are APs so they are already done … So yeah basically that’s why i am indoors.</p>
<p>OK, people seem to have calmed down a bit, and I am not here to re-ignite the fire. Believe it or not, this debate is not personal to me. I have no affliation with any of these schools. All I was saying is that these schools in terms of prestige, selectivity, yield and college matriculation, which are in a way measurable are similar and why Hotchkiss seems to have a better standing than others. I was curious about the underlying reasons. I wasn’t trying to say L or C was a better school than H, not at all. The emotional response from some people were surprising to me, and I am sorry I was caught off guard and very inappropriately said you were “pathetic”. (the things you said to me, I don’t care. I know it’s not to me but to the views you thought I had. You don’t know me and you wouldn’t saying things like that to me in normal circumstances) I don’t have the facts or lists about L/C, unfortunately. I do see your point that Hotchkiss is a great schools in ways other than or on top of the things I mentioned earlier. So that’s good - I know the school better. And I am impressed by the loyalty and enthusiasm of some H alumni/students/parents. I want to conclude this argument by saying sorry if I offended you.</p>