<p>The construction on West Campus is not intended to increase the number of beds. It just replaces outdated buildings with new ones.</p>
<p>that's right, but right now there's a rather large shortage with the destriction of 2 old dorms and the soon to be construction of 1 new large hall.</p>
<p>I disagree with Marian. The new dorms on West are aimed at creating more beds for students. Think about it this way. The classes of 18 and 26 which together held 500 students were knocked down to build room for Bethe, and the new Houses #4 and #5. Those three buildings will definitely hold more thna 500 students and will definitely create more beds for upper classmen who decide to live on campus in 2009.</p>
<p>mynxmom,
When Cornell says it guarantees housing it means just that - your daughter is guaranteed a room. And since all themed houses are part of campus housing, the fact that she was offered housing there means Cornell has kept its word.</p>
<p>this is more a matter of perspective, but living in a themed house isn't as crappy as many make it out to be. Though initial concerns are that you might be cut off from a large part of the upperclassmen community, you should realize a significat portion of themed houses is upperclassmen too. I'm living in HILC next year (tho i would definitely have preferred West campus or Collegetown), but I know a few of friends of mine who are also in HILC and JAM. Also, I don;t see what would stop you from visiting friends in west and going out togather.</p>
<p>Dillon, The west campus initiative is trying to do exactly what you said - make more dorms and beds available. This is just the first part of what is to come.</p>
<p>Lastly, even if you don't get a room in west, and don;t want to live in a themed house, there is always the option of taking an apartment. Even now there are apartments available in good locations in CT (tho more expensive than if u were to look for one in fall). I know this for a fact since my friends took an apartment in Oak Avenue (2mins from campus) just yesterday.</p>
<p>Link to article in the Cornell Sun</p>
<p>Residents Attempt to Save Ujama
<a href="http://www.cornellsun.com/node/22196%5B/url%5D">http://www.cornellsun.com/node/22196</a></p>
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During the first part of the dialogue, students addressed personal and campus-wide concerns. The forum focused on how the program house, living expenses and the appeal of West Campus's new dorms are affecting participation in North Campus program houses. The large drop in initial numbers of Ujamaa participants this year was a result of these reasons and more.</p>
<p>"Ujamaa has become many people's last resort," said one student. "We have to ask ourselves why isn't Ujamaa our first choice?"</p>
<p>This was the main concern for the rest of the evening. The community not only discussed why Ujamaa is not considered an ideal living situation, but also looked to the future. They began brainstorming what they can do to make living in Ujamaa as an upperclassmen more appealing.</p>
<p>Kassandra Frederique '08, an R.A. in Balch Hall, said, "Cornell students don't even know what [program houses] are all about. All that they affiliate with them are the stigmas."
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<p>F*** Cornell housing. Why did I choose it over other schools in the first place? That was the stupidest mistake I've ever made. Cornell is simply the worst place you could ever be at. And why do they ask whether you want to live in a program house or not if they are going to put the people w/ the last lottery time slots into those undersubscribed program houses anyways. Ridiculous!</p>
<p>it's really not that big of a deal to live off campus. living in collegetown is the best, i live in a collegetown dorm right now but i am living on stewart ave in collegetown next year. it would be a far walk but if you use the TCAT its awesome. i take the TCAT every day and i live right by CTB. besides who wants a roommate or an RA???</p>
<p>Actually I think a lot of students (myself included) really desire the sense of community that goes along with living on campus, having a roommate (depends on your preference), and having a group of people in your dorm or on your floor that you can easily become close to. This explains why so many people feel passionately about being forced off campus.</p>
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F*** Cornell housing. Why did I choose it over other schools in the first place? That was the stupidest mistake I've ever made. Cornell is simply the worst place you could ever be at.
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<p>At most universities the overwhelming majority of students want to live OFF campus. Students are often looked down upon for living on campus beyond their freshman year. So, I don't quite understand your point of Cornell being the worst place to be at based on the campus housing.</p>
<p>"Actually I think a lot of students (myself included) really desire the sense of community that goes along with living on campus, having a roommate (depends on your preference), and having a group of people in your dorm or on your floor that you can easily become close to."</p>
<p>most of my friends have rented entire houses together. It just like a dorm, but with more room, a kitchen, living room, and none of those "other" people that you have to deal with in the dorm setting. Plus, you can drink wine in the hall without getting busted with judicial services and all of that crap. Again, most people that live off campus are living with a bunch of people they're very close to ... it's not like people make friends freshmen year and then disband to their own apartments for the 3 years after. </p>
<p>Off campus really is the preferred method for most cornell students. </p>
<p>"Why did I choose it over other schools in the first place? That was the stupidest mistake I've ever made. Cornell is simply the worst place you could ever be at."</p>
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<li>Because you must have forgotten to be informed about the housing transformation on campus. </li>
<li>I'm sure you'll make dumber ones. </li>
<li>Sure, worst place you could ever be at, and just how stupid is it that you are paying a large sum of money to be at the worst place. Drop out, go to State U., and re-evaluate the "stupidest mistake you've ever made"</li>
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<p>if you complain about the ecology house, I will have to smack you upside down. Whether you are a parent or a student.</p>
<p>harvardman1988:</p>
<p>not to be rude but I am just a little curious.</p>
<p>If you attend Cornell why is your name harvardman1988? Are you not happy with your school? Prospective Harvard Transfer student?</p>
<p>(Maybe you just had that name before you decided on Cornell)</p>
<p>Cornell housing isn't that bad at all. Sophomore year I actually lived on north in one of the program houses because I didn't like the room I got on west and it turned out be a good decision. The food on north is also much better than anything you can find in the dining halls on west.</p>
<p>Housing does get better though when you become a junior or senior because you get earlier time slots.</p>
<p>brand182 do you go to cornell? i dont know if you do, but if you do you would know that off campus housing if definetely the preferred way of living for most upperclassmen.</p>
<p>I don't go to Cornell. If the preferred method of living is through off-campus housing, I am wondering why so many students seem to be having trouble with on-campus housing and are upset as a result.</p>
<p>so many?</p>
<p>there's been like 2-3 people in a 4 page thread. Even so, there's been just as many if not more people that have had no trouble with Cornell housing on this thread even with the housing overhaul. </p>
<p>trust me, the preferred method is off campus in the student-run collegetown.</p>
<p>True, there are only a few on here. I shouldn't use the words "so many."</p>
<p>remember, nobody starts a thread to say that they are rooming on west campus next year or to say that they found a nice apartment in collegetown.</p>