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two of the kids whom I worked with at a restaurant struggled to make sandwiches. one is a college student and the other is a cop. the cop "pulls mad tail" allegedly, so evolution isn't being very selective. I don't think darwinism applies to modern life in 2008, personally. there's far too many successful idiots. look at all the hummers everywhere, for one....
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<p>Haha, I agree. I'll retract my statement.</p>
<p>Did the person become a cop after he worked in the restaurant? Or was it a side job for him while he was a cop?</p>
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aibarr....is a university NOT a university if it has a comp lit major?
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<p>Okay, this has devolved into a puddle of massive miscommunication, I think... You said something that, to at least two of us, connoted that "academia" was the same thing as "liberal arts". I was just saying that the word "academia" means "of the academic world," which encompasses liberal arts, science, engineering, and anything that's studied at a university. So, you can't use the word "academia" to refer strictly to non-engineering things, as I think you were doing, because "academia" includes the study of engineering, as well.</p>
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p.s. send private message with pic of you in corporate attire.
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<p>My husband doesn't let me send requested pics of myself in specific attire to people on the internet anymore. Sorry!</p>
<p>and I think the moral of this story is that working in the private sector is always tough. BUT even if you are absolutely worthless when it comes to doing a job as simple as making sandwiches or washing dishes (what they downgraded him to), you still have a place in the public sector, where you can/will be elevated to a position of status and worth despite your sheer, unadulterated incompetence.</p>
Ah, yes, seeing as I am a slightly older engineering nerd, I have yet to set up a Facebook page and keep tabs on everybody.</p>
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and I think the moral of this story is that working in the private sector is always tough. even if you are absolutely worthless when it comes to doing a job as simple as making sandwiches or washing dishes (what they downgraded him to), you still have a place in the public sector, where you can/will be elevated to a position of status and worth despite your sheer, unadulterated incompetence.
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Hazardously, I agree with you, based on my personal experience as well.</p>
<p>When do mechanical engineer specialize their fields?, since I want to become a hvac mech engineer, do all of them study the same thing or what? I’m really confuse about this =[ help!!</p>
<p>^ You start taking specialized courses during upper division (junior and senior) years. But most of your industry-specific learning will take place once you’re employed…try to get some internships as well.</p>
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I took an HVAC 1 tech elective and was then able to do HVAC 2 for my senior design course…there will be similar classes at your university</p>
<p>like was mentioned internship or Co-op experience on top of that too</p>
<p>Thermo 1&2, Fluid Flow, and Heat Transfer are going to be highly relevant courses to landing a job in HVAC so try to do especially well in those courses too.</p>
<p>Thx guys, but do all school wit mechanical engineer major have the hvac courses or do I have to look specific school wit it? since mechanical engineer is broad</p>
<p>Thx guys, but do all school with mechanical engineer major have HVAC courses or do I have to look for specific school wit it? since mechanical engineer is really broad</p>
<p>^ You can usually check the online course catalogs/schedule of classes for the schools that interest you. I checked my alma mater’s catalog and it didn’t have anything specific for HVAC.</p>
<p>Looks like from cyclone10’s statement that Iowa State has the HVAC electives.</p>
<p>Mechanical engineering is going to be very broad…I would keep it general for undergrad since you’ll be able to find employment in a wide variety of industries.</p>
<p>Most schools won’t have a specific HVAC class but you learn everything you need o know about HVAC in thermo, fluids and heat transfer plus on the job training later. An HVAC course would be redundant.</p>
<p>My school had an HVAC course, though I’m not entirely sure what it entails. From what I heard, it sounded like a course heavy on design and not so much about teaching the fundamentals (I believe the fundamental courses were prereqs).</p>
<p>Which is exactly what I said in my post about thermo/heat transfer/fluids. Design can often be covered on the job simply because it is a lot of “tricks of the trade” that you have to pick up out of school anyway.</p>
<p>An actually course on HVAC design would I guess make that learning curve not quite as steep, but is certainly not essential for a career designing HVAC systems.</p>
<p>I agree. The pre-req for HVAC-1 was HT and the professor assumed you knew your HT and stuff…it was like you said ‘tricks of the trade’… the shortcuts and typical grind of building HVAC loads…industry tables…i guess without having taken HT the exams would have been impossible, there was no review </p>
<p>HVAC-2 was a design course…now we’re talking design considerations of an actual building project using TRACE software…I thought most schools require a ‘senior’ design course anyway?</p>
<p>I can see how it would not be a common class, you would also need a professor that has the industry experience ir the class wouldn’t be helpfull</p>
<p>Yeah I know UIUC doesn’t have a specific HVAC class, though you can certainly try to get onto an HVAC related project. My senior design project there involved thermodynamically designing a cooling system for an upcoming supercomputer. Suffice it to say that I learned a lot of “tricks of the trade” in sizing cooling towers, selecting the right pipe size and mass flow and all those sorts of things and a bunch of others just by doing the project and coordinating with the company.</p>