How do yields compare at the top colleges?

[GoBlue81]

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Both schools will enroll excellent and deep student bodies with a large number of high achievers in all of the testing areas. However, given Mudd’s heavy curricular focus on engineering, mathematics, and the sciences (representing 97% of their majors), it seems logical that they would outperform Duke (23% in Engineering and Biology) on the Math depth comparison.

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For you and your U Michigan friends, here is the 25/75 detail by section for those two schools (which likely share 0 common applicants):</p>

<p>CR
660-760 Duke
670-770 Harvey Mudd</p>

<p>MATH
680-780 Duke
750-800 Harvey Mudd</p>

<p>As with the other data that we’ve already discussed, this data is what you would expect to see given the nature of these schools and their relative curriculums.

Do you expect math/engineering students(HMC) to outperform social science/humanities students(Duke) in CRITICAL READING and WRITING too? </p>

<p>Isn’t it supposed to be the other way around … humanities students compensating with superior CR/WR scores to come out even?</p>

<p>And here are the other hawkette ways to analyze the SAT data:</p>

<p>1) Comparing the top end students:</p>

<p>SAT CR>700

• Duke: 60%
• HMC: 65%</p>

<p>SAT Math>700

• Duke: 68%
• HMC: 94% <– BIG difference</p>

<p>SAT WR>700

• Duke: 57%
• HMC: 63%</p>

<p>2) Comparing the bottom end:</p>

<p>SAT 25%-75%:
Duke: 1340-1540
HMC: 1420-1570</p>

<p>A whooping difference of 80 points from the low end … “selectivity from the bottom up”.</p>

<p>Sorry you don’t get to pick and choose … as you ‘invented’ these metrics and promoted them yourself. By your metrics, HMC wins in all three counts.</p>

<p>Thus objective data prove conclusively that HMC has a stronger student body … that is, if you assume that SAT is a good measure of overall student quality.</p>

[wobudong]

<p>If you think that mid-range SAT scores are meaningful, you should be comparing HM scores to Pratt scores. The SAT scores for Pratt are higher than for Trinity, with an average Math of around 750. I suspect that the >700 Math % at Pratt is very similar to that at HM.</p>