How do you figure out what a Match and a “reach”school is when your stats are all at the top?

“For your daughter, it means several safeties with excellent honors colleges (UTD and UH then) as well as universities chosen just for the honors college (top honors colleges include Michigan LSA, Penn State Schreyer, USC Columbia Honors).”

Once again, Michigan does NOT have an honors college. It is an honors program. Not the same thing at all!

https://lsa.umich.edu/honors

^it’s a very subtle distinction in that case, since LSA Honors is an honors program but it functions as an honors college for the students in LSA. Now OP knows. :slight_smile:
(The typical “big” differences between Honors Programs and Colleges are presence/absence of a Dean, size of budget and supporting staff, number and variety of classes offered. For all these criteria, LA Honors scores among the best in the country.)

My son has good stats and also is a low D1 or high D3 swimmer. I read somewhere that a good question to ask your swimmer is whether they want to be a big fish in a small pond or are happy being a small fish in a big pond. Will they be happy being the 4th fastest swimmer in their event or prefer to be number one or two? And every recruiting year could bring faster swimmers.

Another question is do they want to be on a team that is in the top half of their conference or will they be happy in trying to grow a team?

I think swimming could be your daughter’s hook. She wants to be spiky and not well-rounded. If she finds a coach to support her for ED, then you won’t have to worry about matches.

As I have read in many posts and agree, the most important thing is to find the best fit for your daughter. Trying to find just the right combination of academics, quirky students, and perfect swim team is not easy but doable. The athletic recruit forum is a great resource if you need it.

Good luck in your search and feel free to PM me.

UChicago – great in econ and math, looks for student athletes. S1 was a math major there.They have non-binding Early Action. Both my kids applied EA, got in, and that was a heck of an admit to have in hand in December!

Your D will be on the table for discussion everywhere she applies. My big question would be – would she want to be at School X if she weren’t swimming? Some kids get to college and realize that the collegiate swimming environment is very different/hard to coordinate with academics, and decide to focus on other areas in their life. Finding her academic peeps is important, too.

I drove through Cal Poly by accident this weekend (looking for a bagel shop and didn’t realize), it was a really attractive school and it looks like they look for women bc the states are IIRC 53/47% male to female.

@CountingDown made a really important point. Your daughter should work under the assumption of “would I be happy here if I weren’t swimming?” You never know what is going to happen…injury, loss of interest, coaching change. My nephew was recruited to play basketball at Dennison. He got H1N1 followed by mono. So he missed his freshman season. During second semester as he was recovering but not playing he realized it wasn’t a great fit. Good school…but not for him.

So this is something I asked my son at every school: if suddenly you couldn’t run, would you be happy here?

If OP’s daughter is going RA route with UChicago she will have to do ED. But doing swimming and Math/Econ at UChicago will be extremely hard. UChicago is a serious school and those two majors require lots of time commitment.

@SwimmingDad, one of my nephews made decisions based on baseball. (He was a pitcher, had some MLB draft interest). When he was injured and lost some of his scholarship $$ at the D1 school, he was not willing to stay at the school and take out loans. He also found out pretty quickly that the baseball team at the junior college level discouraged him from engineering because of the workload and labs, even though he had scores and grades indicating he was capable of managing it.

There are others who have posted here on CC over the years about how their sons/daughters found collegiate athletics very different and not to their liking. S2 considered a college sport and then realized how many opportunities he missed in HS because he was practicing and playing. Decided not to pursue it.

S1 found that math didn’t consume his every waking moment. There are plenty of student athletes at Chicago; I would say the OP’s D has a pretty good handle so far on how to balance the two.