How do you think the US's Higher Education admissions process should be reformed?

<p>Yeah ^ I disappointingly agree…</p>

<p>^ Disappointingly?</p>

<p>As in I wish our American system rewarded us by both work ethic and intelligence. Maybe some real life situations where we have to problem solve, instead of sitting at a desk for 8 hours a day learning some pretty irrelevant stuff at this time of our lives.</p>

<p>“Education in this country is a disaster. We’re supposed to prepare children for work. Most of the time they’re bored stiff.”
“I should’ve thought that being bored stiff was an excellent preparation for work.”</p>

<p>^yeah</p>

<p>wasn’t there a thread on CC that said that USA college students were rated in the medium teens compared to everyone else in the world in math and science? It was US news too. It was one of those popular threads in that “currently popular threads” section at the top of CC forums.</p>

<p>^ Big whoop… Unless you are in a math-based field then when are you going to use college math in real life? Just because other cultures been to vaule engineers over historians does not make Americans any worse at the type of math that translates into real life as more than a test score</p>

<p>Just because you say “like/you know” doesn’t equate you being an idiot… Sometimes people just talk really fast and using “like” and “you know” is a way to slow down their speech patterns.</p>

<p>^ True but it does not give the a good first impression… Although some people respond differently, I tend to use unnecessarily long sentences when I stalling rather than saying “like/you know” so I’m plagued by the same issues as a serial like-sayer, thus I should not judge them…</p>

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You’re not condescending, are you?</p>

<p>I am sorry, theyankinlondan, but its not a “big whoop”, it means that we Americans are idiots.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1045836-u-s-cant-crack-top-10-student-skills.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1045836-u-s-cant-crack-top-10-student-skills.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>no hahalolk, I think you saw your name and suddenly felt insulted because you say like in every sentence.</p>

<p>^ My point was I don’t really care about test scores… Not saying that Americans are smarter than anyone else but rather than big whoop if you can do well on a test last time I checked nothing super amazing has come out of Finland for quite some time.</p>

<p>Nope. I do not, actually. I merely think you are being condescending for insulting people based on how they speak. </p>

<p>What is interesting is how you assumed that since I defended the intelligence of those who used the word like in everyday speech, that I also frequently use the word in everyday speech. I find this interesting, because if that were true, then I can rightfully assume that since you defended your condescension, you are a condescending person in real life.</p>

<p>I do not know if that is true, and all I am saying is that your remark insults many intelligent people for an arbitrary reason, which gives the appearance that you are arrogant. Please refrain from the ad hominem attacks. Instead of proving that you are not condescending, it proves the opposite.</p>

<p>Less focus on essays. For the top-tier schools, less focus on extracurriculars. More weight given to standardized tests than grades, because grading standards can vary from extremely rigorous (very bright kids get 3.5 unweighted… I know a guy who is doing grad level physics and math, excellent memory, 2400 SAT without prep course, and yet he gets B’s in school, and it’s not like he’s lazy, or doesn’t care, or is only good at math+science either) to the pointlessly easy (I know many people at public schools with sub-2000 SATs and 4.0s… in fact, I know one with a 1540 and straight A’s and A+ at his public school; he rarely even does his homework). Test scores are a better measure of intelligence than grades; grades just show how easily your teachers grade, which doesn’t really mean anything.</p>

<p>Edit: according to this, the AVERAGE person with an A+ GPA has only an 1816 SAT. That’s not good, yet their grades indicate that they are a super genius… <a href=“http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/2010-total-group-profile-report-cbs.pdf[/url]”>http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/2010-total-group-profile-report-cbs.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^What about standardized achievement exams? That’s what really matters.</p>

<p>You assumed I was condescending, yet you became offensive even though I made an obvious joke/assumption towards you. I wasn’t putting you down, but you were defending people who speak like this.</p>

<p>However, I understand your argument and I agree with it. HOWEVER, in most cases, when some 17 year old girl says like in ever sentence, my first impression is that she is the typical American idiot. Obviously, this is just the first impression. An example is a girl at my school. There are many girls like her. She does well academically, yet she has the typical American high-pitched voice and uses the word like for half the words she uses. The idiots think she is smart because gets good grades, but the intellectuals know that she is truly a dumb and mindless sheep who plays with her cell phone every five minutes and has an attention span of a gnat.</p>

<p>This is a constant assumption that can be made throughout my school because most people who speak like this act in the same fashion.</p>

<p>And there is no way to judge someone through the internet, so you can call me whatever you want, but it really all nonsense.</p>

<p>@bob</p>

<p>But you can also argue that our standardized tests are junk too, because anybody can buy a barrons/blue book and study for two weeks and get a good score. Intelligence helps with the studying and the overall concepts, but the neither the colleges nor the SAT measure intelligence. The SAT measures how much money you spent on study material. Intelligence decreases this cost.</p>

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<p>Were those spelling errors intentional?</p>

<p>I don’t like Intellectuals. They are pretentious for no reason and make fun of people who aren’t “intellectuals”.</p>

<p>@ bobtheboy</p>

<p>lol I type fast

  1. who cares
  2. I am foreign so my spelling sucks
  3. what are you talking about?</p>

<p>@woeishe</p>

<p>Those are not intellectuals. Intellectuals are logical enough to know that insulting someone is dumb and unethical/pointless. Your thinking of ******-bags.</p>

<p>@euro So that would make you a ******-bag? Cause you totally insulted someone from your school for no reason</p>

<p>You have a good point there sir, but this is the internet, and anything goes…</p>

<p>I am talking about real life, and I really didn’t insult her either. I can call my mom dumb, and its not an insult, its just a statement. I don’t go up to people and call them dumb, if that’s what your thinking.</p>

<p>And I was making a point, and not just randomly calling some random girl in my school randomly dumb. So shut the random up.</p>

<p>It’s midnight…</p>