<p>Hello,</p>
<pre><code> I am a volunteer Chaplain at Saint Jude Children's Hospital, which is over where I live in Memphis. Perhaps you folks have seen the telethons on TV?
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<p>I had a parent ask me something which I cannot figure out and would like some help. The child in question is 19 and has been cancer free for a while. They got behind in school and tried to catch up and was fortunate enough to graduate high school at the age of 18. They applied at University and were told that they have a high school deficiency in math and were told that if they do not clear it up on the quick, then they would have to either leave the University or solely take the maths they are deficient in and nothing else.
The child has decided to take the math online at a school which has a transfer articulation agreement with the University they got admitted to and to defer their admission to the University they got admitted to until they clear this matter up. I told this child's parent that it was a good idea because this child got behind in math when they were really ill with cancer. What the parent is wondering is that if their child clears up the remedial math and then even takes a University level math, then how can they make sure the courses transfer? I sat down forever and read over the transfer articulation agreement online and it does not say anywhere that a remedial math is transferable. But, University level math is transferable to a fair degree.
The University in question is the University of Memphis. And the child is going to take a humble level Algebra at the University of Tennessee Knoxville as well as one Freshman level mathematics class for non science majors. I am sorry for saying:"child" a lot. But, if I can obtain some sort of layman's help with this, I can hook this person up with some free one on one tutoring through a High School, so I guess that is why I am saying child.
I would not say this to the parents face, but the University f Memphis has one of the worse transfer departments! So I was thinking that maybe the student in question should make sure to save the syllabus from the classes they will be taking at the University of Tennessee online and also have the Instructor of the classes write a letter to the transfer office as well as maybe the head of the math department?
Do any of you folks have experience with hard core stubborn transfer office heads?</p>
<p>Usually remedial courses aren't transferable from what I know, and that is pretty much every where.</p>
<p>But if the person in question took the remedial course and then automatically took a University level math for non science majors type of course, then would that clear things up?</p>
<p>I'm think that taking the remedial course as well as the University level math course online would take care of things? Would not things balance out if the young adult took like remedial Algebra and then right after that took College Algebra? Should they take an extra math after University level Algebra to be on the safe side? Maybe, Remedial Algebra, College Algebra, and then Math for Elementary Schoolteachers or something non science major related like that?</p>
<p>well, the reason kids have to take remedial math courses is so they will be successful in math courses in the future they will need to take. Lower level math classes count for zero credits, thereofore they dont transfer anywhere. However, the grade is usually counted within the gpa. But if the student is assigned to take a remedial class, they MUST finish it before taking a math class that actually counts. He/she should be able to take the remedial class online, and there once they go to a University they should be allowed to take a math class that actually counts for credits, because the remedial math class will show up on the student's transcripts. However, you should talk with a counselor with the University that the student wants to transfer to and ask to be sure that the online course will be sufficient .</p>
<p>I appreciate you folks very much. The thing is that this University has no one! It is horrible and I know this kid is to be going there later on because of financial reasons. I called them, you know? And, I lied and claimed to be a plain Chaplain(I just accidentally on purpose left the word Volunteer off), not just a Volunteer one, and they said that no matter what articulation agreements they have there is always a possibility this kid might have to take things over! But, they cannot tell me which things because it "varies".</p>
<p>I am trying to figure out that if this child took Remedial Intermediate Algebra, University level Algebra, (and maybe to be on the safe side?) University level Basic Calculus or University level pre Calculus (that would be cool if you were honestly playing catch up, right?)...then would that negate the High School Deficiency Issue? I can get them a tutor for all of that through a private school which has killer service learning for future math and science teachers.</p>
<p>Would it look better for this child if it was like: Remedial Intermediate Algebra, University Level (aka College) Algebra, and then either Basic Calculus or Pre Calculus? The University has a transfer articulation agreement with all of these courses except the remedial one.</p>
<p>But, since this University of Memphis is horrible, I need to figure out a way to make sure they will not have to do all of that math only to wind up having to start all over again. </p>
<p>Could a lower tier University make someone take really clear cut and universal maths over? Like, if the kid did all of this math, would they still be asked to take the remedial math at the other University or would they be done?</p>
<p>Ok, if this person went to that online school and took Algebra, which does not transfer becuase it is a remedial course, and then took Calculus, Or the next class up, which DOES transfer, than yes that would clear up the HS deficiency. </p>
<p>Bascilly if the student takes the 1st transferable math course they than satisfy the math requirment for college, .... if in order to take the 1st transfefrable math course they must complete 1 or 2 or 3 lower level math courses then those lower level courses will not transfer.</p>
<p>Oh, I thank all of you for your responses. I learned of this on Thursday morning and I called the child's mother earlier after learning of this from you nice folks. I am pretty sure that if a future Literature major does the Remedial Intermediate Algebra, University level College Algebra, and then either PreCalculus or Basic Calculus-then no one in their right mind would make them take the Remedial over. Not even at a third tier school</p>
<p>The sooner this child works on clearing up this issue, the better they will be because they want to learn and grow with schooling really badly in order to make up for lost (academic) time. I truly thank you all very much.</p>