<p>if you're an international applicant from the US? and iheard they were much more numbers-based than american colleges. is that tru? is it like getting into an American school like MIT if you're an international applicant (where the admissions rate is like 0.0000000000000001%?)</p>
<p>haha just wondering, cuz i would LOVe to go to school in england</p>
<p>Depends,
some british schools LOVE students from the US because we have to pay way more than UK students.
others won't take Americans unless they're applying from their freshman year of US college (rather than applying as a HS senior) because most British degrees are 3 years (4 years for Scottish unis) and so they don't consider a HS diploma adequate for entry into a 3-year university. Having a lot of APs/IB is important if you're applying from HS.</p>
<p>I'm not too sure about Cambridge (I believe they don't like HS students), but I've heard that it's easier for Americans to get into Oxford than UK students.St. Andrews in Scotland is one that takes a LOT of American students.</p>
<p>aww, i have absoutely no clue about the international applicant process but it sounds really cool to go to school there =)</p>
<p>It is quite difficult to go to school in GB if you're not British I heard. If you were interested in applying this year, the deadlines are over pretty much. But if you email the admissions people, they'll probably tell you the requirements. I think you need at least 3 APs with a score of 4 or 5, and SAT scores as well if you're an American applicant.</p>
<p>Also, they're VERY numbers based. They care little about your ECs. My friend just had an interview from Oxford two months ago and their interviews are not at all like the ones we're used to here. They give you a text that you're required to analyze and write about. Then they ask you about current events or whatever is related to the major you're interested in. They also give you math problems to solve.</p>
<p>Due to grade inflation they use ur numbers to see if ur eligible, and for which college (meaning for which campus of. let's say cambridge, you are eligible for) . then if ur eligible, they will base ur admission on ur interview ALOT...and like mentioned above, that has mostly to do with ur intellect ability nd ur knowledge in the subject ur applying for.</p>
<p>good luck.</p>
<p>Cambridge is extremely selective to local or international applicants alike. Its asking is usually 3 As for A-levels or at least 38 for IB. </p>
<p>In general, Cambridge is as selective as HYPSM.</p>
<p>I have made dozens of posts on this (so try searching this board), but the basics are;</p>
<p>You can't apply to both Oxford and Cambridge in the same year</p>
<p>The application deadline (for both)is 15th October, if you interview in the UK, 20th Sept to interview abroad.</p>
<p>You have to apply through UCAS. linked here
UCAS</a> Home Page</p>
<p>for the same fee (1 common application) you can apply for 5 more UK schools and the deadline for the rest is 15th Jan, with rolling admissions. There is an additional form for Oxbridge applications too (download from their web-sites)</p>
<p>I believe the admit rate for internationals is something like 17% (so statistically a bit better than HYP, but remember you can only apply to one), but have a look on their websites to confirm this
Homepage</a> - University of Oxford
University</a> of Cambridge</p>
<p>Most US applicants have spent a year at a US college before coming to the UK. But a few do get in straight from high school. The fact is that most European students take a gap year before college, hence they will be older anyway. So having an extra year of study is no bad thing and only makes you the same age as everyone else.</p>
<p>It says in the FAQs on Oxford and cambridge web-sites (try reading these. they are helpful), ECs ARE NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS. Nothing matters unless it relates to the subject you are applying for. For example, hospital work experience if you are applying for medicine or bio-sciences.</p>
<p>for all UK schools, you apply for one subject and you have to stick with it. No minors, no changing your mind. You can't transfer either. To change subject or university you usually have to drop out and start again in the first year.</p>
<p>Scotland is a bit different from Englabnd, Wales and NI, as you get an MA in 4 years there, rather than a BA in 3 years everywhere else. Plus you get to do a couple of extra subjects in your first year. but really, it is not that different.</p>
<p>UK schools have to take a certain number of full-fee paying internationals to subsidise the "home" students, so outside the top 5 or so you will almost certainly get in if you intend to pay. That's my experience anyway.</p>
<p>There is a UK version of this board at
<a href="http://www">www</a>. the student room .co .uk
(remove the spaces). You can get more information there.</p>
<p>um, so what are ECs considered here?
do USAMO and other olympiad compeitions count as ECs... (not that i hav them, im just wondering what count and what dont)
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lol...i can imagine that interview....</p>
<p>Weird. This was this article about how those at England actually are shifting their focus to U.S. universities. I guess it's similar to the west-east coast paradox, for lack of a better word.</p>
<p>One of my friend's cousin goes to Cambridge! :D</p>
<p>Narcissa, I'd assume that awards from presitgious competitions will be much more favourably looked upon than 200 hours of volunteering at your local senior home. </p>
<p>And yea, the interview pretty much sucks. I was dissuaded from applying there based on the description of the interview alone haha.</p>
<p>cupcake, nice post. but let me comment about cambridge's selectivity which you don't seem to believe that it's not up to par to HYPSM.</p>
<p>First of all, admission passing percentage is a misnomer in this case and thus is not a reliable measure. Why is that? </p>
<p>Oxbridge applicants are self selective. Meaning, those who think that they do not stand a chance of getting admitted don't apply anymore. Even in the UK, universities such as Manchester, Nottingham, Birmingham and Leeds receive many more applicants than the Oxford and Cambridge do, but none of the former schools have better standard or is more selective than either of the Oxbridge unis. </p>
<p>My point is, if you have the stat to get into Cambridge, you’ll have a very good chance of getting into any of the HYPSM and vice versa.</p>
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You're preaching to the converted here since I have been in England 7 years and I know all of this. I am well aware that the UK application process is not like the US one and that number of applications is not indicative of the strenght of the university (though it is often indicative of fashionability. All Americans want to study where Prince William went, yet most people in England have never heard of it...) but </p>
<p>1)I think my post above is long enough. i have made many other posts on this subject.
2)if you post on this board that anything is more selective/better than/even in the same league as HYP, you may get viciously attacked. I cannot be bothered with this argument.</p>
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<p>lollol really?? haha
thnx everyone</p>