How helpfull can SATs be?

<p>I have good Sat and Sat II scores but pretty bad GPA</p>

<p>sat Cr: 800 M:750 W: 790 (12 essay) composite: 2340</p>

<p>Sat II- M1c: 740 Bio(e): 800</p>

<p>GPA: 3.5 Weighted (out of 5) 4.0</p>

<p>ecs, recs, essays are all good, </p>

<p>I'm applying to top small liberal arts schools. Will I be able to get into any of them?</p>

<p>I think the top LACs put quite a lot of weight on standardized test scores, more so than the ivies. You would probably be cast as the “smart slacker” who could have done better in school if you just tried a bit harder. But those SAT scores should make up for your GPA, I think…</p>

<p>The answer to your question depends in part your high school’s reputation and your class rank.</p>

<p>my high school is one of the best public high schools in the state, but it does not rank.</p>

<p>if it were to rank, i would guess that i would be on the border of top 10%.</p>

<p>tell me, how did u score so high? how can i this nov?</p>

<p>You have a lot to gain by trying to communicate your approximate rank to those colleges.</p>

<p>If you provide a rank, even just a general idea, they are likely to consider your grades very differently. Your grades are quite low for those schools, but your class rank is very solid.</p>

<p>Is there any way at all that you can give the schools some ballpark of where you would be placed?</p>

<p>For instance, many, many schools provide a general breakdown on the class by percentiles, even though they don’t rank directly. Or sometimes college counselors will write things like, “We don’t rank, but if we did, Student X would likely be in the top 10%,” or whatever. </p>

<p>I applied as a high school student with a 3.45 GPA, 800 CR, 680 M, 800 W, 800 SAT II French, 800 SAT II Literature, and I was waitlisted at Swarthmore and Northwestern and rejected at Princeton. (Happy ending: I got in to NU off the waitlist and ended up transferring to Harvard with a 3.8 two years later. So if you were, in fact, a high school slacker, you may have options later.) At the same time, my class rank was much, much lower than yours: I think I was in the third decile.</p>

<p>I mention all this because I think that your ability to communicate your relative class rank may actually have a significant effect on your outcomes this year. So think about it long and hard, and talk to your school about it, before you repost here saying “There’s nothing I can do; we just don’t rank, and there’s an end on’t.” :)</p>