How important/influential is legacy at usc?

<p>any experience/advice/perceptions?</p>

<p>depends on how big of a donor or how famous that person is :)</p>

<p>Hmm, well, considering that 22% of the 2009 entering freshmen class were legacies, I’d say it definitely doesn’t hurt. :)</p>

<p>It gives you an advantage, but it doesn’t make up for a lack of good SAT scores, GPAs, ECs. But as stated above, it doesn’t hurt :slight_smile: Might even be that X-factor if you have competitive stats.</p>

<p>Yeah, it definitely helps, but it won’t make up for poor grades/test scores. However, if you’re on the cusp, it could be the difference between say a rejection and spring admissions.</p>

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<p>notaznguy and akalboy- how do you know? Did you read that somewhere… link? Did you hear that from admissions? I’m curious where you got this information because I was told by more than one admissions counselor that legacy is not an admission factor. USC does, however, provide a one-on-one counseling session for legacies who are not admitted but would like information on transferring to USC in the future.</p>

<p>You are absolutely right.</p>

<p>Sorry- I have an obsession with accuracy…
If you are going to speculate, specify that it is your opinion.<br>
If you are stating as fact- provide proof/links.</p>

<p><a href=“http://xkcd.com/386/[/url]”>http://xkcd.com/386/&lt;/a&gt;
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<p>I hope you aren’t that ignorant cc411. When I applied to USC back in 2008, they asked if any of my relatives were alums of USC. In addition, in statistic pages, USC also includes how many of their admitted students have legacy preferences. To believe USC does not have at least some sort of legacy preferences is just as ignorant as saying under represented minorities have no advantage in admissions. Believe what you want though.</p>

<p>notaznguy, your post above was uncalled for. You have absolutely nothing to support your position other than your opinion, and yet you insult a knowledgeable, longtime USC poster who probably answered many of your questions back when you applied.</p>

<p>Based on watching this forum for the last two years and seeing many, many legacy applicants with good stats rejected, my opinion is the opposite of yours. USC does not seem to give much of an admissions advantage to legacy students. They do, however, offer individual in-person transfer counseling to rejected legacy applicants - that service would not be needed if being a legacy was an auto-in.</p>

<p>alamemom, if you read the post above, you would know cc411 decided to be cute and post a a funny link. I think my response was only appropriate. And in addition, I never stated being a legacy meant that you are guaranteed, or gives a high percent of admission. I already stated that legacy status does not make up for lack of stats, but it can at least give you a second look or a slight edge. Emphasis on slight. Likewise, it is your opinion though and I have mine.</p>

<p>The only proof I will give is that in the 2008 USC application, it asks very straightforward, “Did your father/mother attend USC? If so, list their names:”</p>

<p>I still have a copy of the actual application, I can provide a picture if you’d like.</p>

<p>The USC Freshman Profile (found on the USC official website) also lists how many students are SCions (legacies)</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/0910/FreshmanProfile2009.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/0910/FreshmanProfile2009.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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No, that will not be necessary - they ask that question because there are scholarships specifically for legacies and they need to know if you qualify, and so they can include the offer of individual in-person transfer counseling letter with the rejection in the event the legacy is rejected.</p>

<p>And yes, I agree that cc411 included a funny, cute link. It is one of my favorites that she posts when she is feeling she is being too obsessive about accuracy. You, on the other hand, were rude and insulting.</p>

<p>alamemom, all I’m going to say is if cc411 did not want that type of response, she could have simply not posted the picture. I think as a poster, cc411 should expect all sorts of responses to her posts. I will no longer contribute to your personal attacks and arguments against me, I’m here to just contribute information to the OP’s board. If you disagree with my posts, you can post a response/your opinion, and it seems you did just that so there is nothing left to say unless you are contributing any more relevant information.</p>

<p>And to contribute information, I would like to respond to this:</p>

<p>“they ask that question because there are scholarships specifically for legacies and they need to know if you qualify, and so they can include the offer of individual in-person transfer counseling letter with the rejection in the event the legacy is rejected.”</p>

<p><a href=“https://alumni.usc.edu/clubs/scholarship_08.php[/url]”>https://alumni.usc.edu/clubs/scholarship_08.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Scholarships require a separate application in addition to a regular admissions application. Therefore, such a supplemental form asking if a relative attended USC is an exception as it is afterall, an Alumni Scholarship. In regards to the normal application, USC asks if your relative attended USC, whether you are applying for the scholarship or not.</p>

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It seems your above post violated the policy you would like to apply to me.</p>

<p>I have made no personal attack against you, I simply pointed out your personal attack against another poster.</p>

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It is so cute that you edited your post to try to include relevant information after I pointed out you hadn’t!</p>

<p>You are quite free to have your opinion, the issue cc411 had was with your first post on this thread where you stated your opinion as though it was fact. My issue was your rude and personally insulting post directed at cc411. </p>

<p>Again, it has been my observation over two years of watching the USC forum and seeing legacy applicants with good stats rejected that being a legacy does not have a big impact on acceptance. That is just my opinion, and I am as free to hold it as you are to hold yours.</p>

<p>the policy that I have heard is that legacy is no longer considered at all for admission (no “slight boost” or “on the cusp” type benefit either)</p>

<p>After admission, it can matter for SCion scholarships, etc., or after rejection, transfer admit counseling</p>

<p>ehhh… I should have stayed in retirement…</p>

<p>I try to ask for accuracy (adding cute and funny to soften the demand) and I’m ignorant*. I’ve been called worse so oh well… </p>

<p>notaznguy- I hope you will read this and hear it as a sincere: I just want you to try to state your answers as opinion if that’s what they are. This forum is known for being a good source of accurate information and many of us try to keep it that way. But if you had links or proof, I honestly wanted to see that. It seemed you used reason to get your answer which can be a valid back-up to an opinion but it still does not make an answer fact. </p>

<p>The legacy question does come up often here. I think it might be time for someone else to call admissions again and ask the question and report the answer here. Different counselors may answer that question differently so it would be nice to get this answered multiple times. </p>

<p>*My ignorance on this topic is actually based on personal experience. I’m an alumni. Son#1 is a USC grad-2007. Son#2 is a junior at USC. Daughter with the similar stats and better ec’s than her brothers was not admitted (she is in the middle age-wise). MULTIPLE calls to admissions and private appointment with counselor confirmed to us that legacy is not an admission factor. It is used- as others in this thread have pointed out- for scholarship consideration and for counseling opportunities. But as we DO know about admissions at USC, we never know for sure. That is my opinion. :slight_smile: <— smilie added to try to add a cute and friendly tone to my post.</p>

<p>yeah, on every single application I’ve done, they’ve asked if any of my relations went to their school. It’s not just a USC thing, and I’m sure legacy status counts differently at the different schools to which I am applying. I’m not a legacy at USC, so it’s irrelevant for me, but I thought I’d put in my 2 cents. :)</p>

<p>Legacies, especially those who live in southern california, do benefit from a lot of special scholarship opportunities set up by alumni clubs specifically for them. That’s where they get the advantage, not in the admissions decision.</p>