How intellectual and activism-oriented is Bates, especially compared to Wesleyan?

Hi, everyone. I’m a high school senior from the Washington, D.C. area who wants to attend a small liberal arts college and is trying to decide where to apply ED1 (and possibly ED2) this fall.

Since I visited last fall, Wesleyan University has stood out to me on the list of my favorite schools (others include Bates, Carleton, Colorado College, Kenyon, and Vassar, which are all contenders for ED2). I am a huge social justice warrior and love the activist vibe on campus, as well as the racial diversity, which is unparalleled by most other LACs (I’m a white female, but a lot of what I’ve put my passion into has been work with my school’s diversity committee, and I’ve made a lot of my friends through this work). However, because of recent admissions decisions received from Wes by students at my school, it is clear that the school is more of a reach for me than I had previously expected.

Recently, I visited Bates College and had a great experience. While it was originally my second choice overall and my #1 choice for ED2, it has become more of an overall top choice in my mind recently because my college counselor told me it is a match for me, so I would have a very good chance of getting in if I applied ED1. I loved the spirit of inclusivity at the school, as well as the outdoorsiness/sportiness, the short term, the GECs, and the senior thesis. I like that Bates seems to be a bit of a mix of the hippie/political vibe of Wes and the outdoorsiness of Middlebury (a school I removed as an ED contender because the student body felt too homogeneous). However, I’ve read that the student body at Bates is socially conscious but not as much activist, and it doesn’t seem as intellectual as Wesleyan.

That being said, I am not set on having an overly intellectual environment at the college I attend. I stayed overnight at UChicago with a friend and had an amazing experience but ultimately decided an environment like that would be too intense for me; the same goes for Swarthmore. I liked Wesleyan because it was seemed very political and very intellectual but also laid-back, and I wanted a place that wasn’t too “out there” like Oberlin or Reed. While I have seen Wesleyan on lists of “most intellectual colleges” along with the aforementioned schools and schools like Grinnell, Macalester, etc., Bates doesn’t seem to be part of that group of small liberal arts colleges.

This has become a long-winded post, but my question is basically whether, as someone who is a huge activist and wants a very intellectual college experience, I would be happy at Bates. As someone who is very outspoken about diversity/equity/social justice, I have felt pretty isolated in my high school, and I want to make sure Bates is very different than that. I not only want people who are accepting but people who also care about similar issues and above all people who I can learn from. As of now, I have Wesleyan and Bates as my two possible ED1 choices, but if I would be happy at Bates then I would feel inclined to apply there instead of taking a risk with Wes. If anyone has any insight it would be greatly appreciated!

My daughter’s list seems similar to yours. She applied to Grinnell, Macalester and Reed. She ended up at Bates. She says she felt pretty liberal when compared to kids at home but she is not as liberal compared to Batesies. I think that Bates continues to work very hard on diversity and social justice issues. Check out groups like the Bates OIE to see what they are doing. There are lots of opportunities for students to engage the community.

I wasn’t sure how to respond until I read your last paragraph. I’ve never been to Bates. But, finding a college where you will feel less isolated than you did in high school is a pretty low bar to meet. If your gut says Bates, then, Bates it is.

You’ll probably find enough of what you’re looking for at Bates, but I think Vassar would be closer to Wesleyan’s vibe. At least that’s the impression we got when we toured both. Have you visited Vassar?

I know kids whose top two choices were Bard and Bates. (Or Vassar and Bates.) I also know kids whose top 2 choices were Colby and Bates. (Or Midd and Bates.)
Which is to say that while your tribe will be at Bates, so will the tribe you would like to avoid. It’s definitely a more mixed place than some. To some (including me), this is a positive. To others with a clear desire for a certain vibe, on either side, their vibe feels a bit diluted.

I think Wes may be more your kind of place.

I guess it depends on whether you want to be only with people who agree with you (and vice versa) or you are receptive to diversity of opinion and would like a vibrant community where debate and exchange of thought are part of the culture??

Look at the Bates Bonner Leader program and the Harward Center. If you didn’t have a chance to meet these folks, you might consider calling. The list of ways kids get involved in the local (and Maine/New England) communities or projects is long. The local community has a large population of immigrants in need and Lewiston itself is evolving. Very interesting opportunities to get involved, both ongoing and for the senior thesis/project. The community enggement was one of several draws, for my girls. Both were stretched academically and well educated by the experience.