How Is Chicago's Accept Rate 8% This Year?

This is bad news.

https://www.chicagomaroon.com/article/2017/4/6/university-release-admissions-numbers-autumn/

This means that they will only release the data on their website and when they are forced to release to IPEDS in Nov, after the EA/ED1 deadline has passed. They are definitely hiding something.

I think I’d do the same thing in their position. They experimented, they aren’t comfortable with the results, they don’t want people to rely upon a repeat of what happened this year, so they don’t publicize their outcomes. That decision could cost them – but so would revealing the stats.

Hey, if Trump’s refusal to release his personal income tax returns didn’t cost him the election, it’s not unreasonable to think that there are situations in which forcing people to rely on conjecture is less of a threat to your reputation than revealing a damning truth.

Refusing to release their acceptance data could have a significant impact on Early applications. Seems like a dumb strategy. The maroon or Chicago Trib. should follow up with more questions.

What exactly would they be hiding? We know yield is up and total apps are down by 2-3 thousand. Perhaps they want to get the waitlist acceptances completely as part of yield… Waitlist goes until late summer.

@Chrchill I think their total apps could have tanked. There is going to be rampant speculation, even if it didn’t . This calls into question all the numbers they released informally. 8%, 2%, 28K. Everything is now suspect.

@denydenzig, I think your post #104 is a huge over reaction. It seems to me the only thing UChicago has to be worried/embarrassed about is how its 2% RD rate will be received generally. Such a low number draws into question whether RD is a good choice for '22 applicants. My kid applied EA, was deferred, and then was one of an apparently very small group admitted RD (thank goodness!). If my kid had not been accepted, we probably would have been quite critical of the low RD admissions. As it is, I think the school will want to review all its admissions data very carefully before deciding on its admission strategy for the '22 cycle.

@Sam-I-Am That makes a lot of sense , but does not fully explain the delay in release of data unless they are waiting for final yield numbers which would be late summer due to waitlist acceptances. Perhaps they want to release final numbers with a change on ED, EA etc policy .

Here’s a thought:

Uchicago may simply prefer to publish real numbers (which tend not to be finalized till near matriculation). In the past what the Maroon publishes and what the final numbers are can be a bit different (eg 66% yield reported last May, 64% reported on the UChicago website this fall).

One set of numbers released at one time to all sources - news, website, IPEDS (whoever they are . . .).

I agree with #106 and 107 above. If the administration is waiting for final numbers, perhaps the 2% RD rate (which may draw criticism) will become 3-4% after RD applicants are taken off the WL and admitted. I don’t think anyone would complain much about a 4% RD admit rate, though any lower could impact the number of applications in '22 and beyond.

@Chrchill and @ThankYouforHelp

Am I being too grumpy if I state my displeasure with Chicago’s decision to NOT release Class of 2021 admission statistics until the Fall?

More than any optics, this is a disservice to rising juniors who will apply to college in the Fall. These students should be able to find out current admissions stats - including how many students apply, admissions rates, etc.

Refusing to release these stats just impairs the rising seniors’ ability to compare current admissions metrics over the summer. Further, if Chicago releases stats the third week of the Fall Quarter - that’s like mid-October (only a couple weeks before the EA/ED deadline).

I don’t understand. Why do this? Why hide the ball? This is just another applicant-unfriendly decision, for, from what I can see, no good reason.

(My hunch is: as the accept rates are probably low and skewed - e.g. ED has by FAR the best rate and RD rate is super low - Chicago doesn’t want to release these stats and skew next year’s applicant pool [e.g. having an insane number apply ED and even less apply RD].)

This is just playing games, pure and simple. Someone criticized me for calling this shenanigans upthread, but that’s exactly what’s going on here - silly games.

@Cue7, don’t get so worked up! Maybe the numbers will be released in time for the '22s to consider them while applying. I agree with your hunch above, BTW. The RD rate may increase as students are allowed in off the WL, and that would confirm your hunch! :smiley:

I think what they’re not eager to publicize is the differential between % of ED applicants admitted and % of RD applicants admitted. They screwed up the balance this year and won’t strike it the same way next year.

Yield will be up, obviously. And median SATs will be hard to interpret. Apps are down, probably at least 10% (31,411 apps for class of 2020). But I agree with Sam that the damning/destructive stat is 2% RD.

@Cue7 I agree that they should at least explain why they are delaying. If anything, it generates negative inferences that are superfluous and unhelpful. I am quasi grumpy with you :slight_smile:

@Cue7 - pardon me but get in line. Behind the Class of 2017. Because those kids have been whipsawed by a bunch of stuff changing on them, from PSAT/SAT to many colleges changing their admissions policies and plans (wasn’t just UChicago although that one was a bit more extreme . . .).

Test scores will be up as well. This was confirmed at several admitted student receptions.

@Crchill that one I’m actually a bit skeptical about LOL. But we’ll see.

@JBStillFlying

Oh I agree - this year was brutal for the Class of 2017, but it didn’t help that Chicago behaved in an especially egomaniacal way. The Class of 2020 was plenty strong, and Chicago looks like it’s just trying to squeeze a little bit more out of the well, at the expense of applicants.

So Chicago did an experiment (ED/ED2), which caused applicant confusion (how should I apply? when should I apply?), and, when things didn’t go as planned, there response is to hide data and cause, for the upcoming year, more applicant confusion (what was the accept rate for ED? How many applied ED? What about RD? Oh wait we won’t know until two weeks before the 2017 ED deadline.)

(And come on - why wait until mid-October? Stats are pretty final by July/August - why wait two months more??)

When does the USNWR ranking come out?

@exacademic - USNWR comes out in September - usually mid-September, but data in USNWR is always a couple years old.

UNNWR should probably be relying on the admissions cycle for the incoming Fall 2016 class, because CDS and other things are just being made available for those now.