How is it like to be premed at Grinnell?

Grinnell is my top choice. However, I have a few questions about the premed experience:

  1. What kind of volunteer/research opportunities do Grinnell premeds take part of, and are they able to find these opportunities fairly easily in spite of the location?
    1. On the website it said that overall 66% of those who applied to med school within the last five years got in, whereas 87% of those with at least a 3.7 GPA and 85th percentile MCAT did. How many Grinnell premeds actually do that well on the MCAT and get over a 3.7 GPA? Is this fairly attainable?

3.Do most people have to pursue a masters before getting into med school at Grinnell?

  1. How supportive is the prehealth advising?
  2. My other option is my state school, UW-Madison. Given that the cost between the two are comparable with financial aid being taken into account, would it be more advantageous for me to go there instead if I'm premed given the abundance of research opportunities?

hi there! i was pre-med, and i have many friends who are currently pre-med as well. I’ll do the best i can to answer your questions.

1.) I’m not well versed in the volunteer opportunities, so i can’t speak on behalf of them, I’m sorry. if you want to know about this specifically, i would email the admissions office and ask them to put you in touch with someone who can provide you with more information. now, in terms of research opportunities, they’re pretty plentiful. lots of students will complete MAPs (mentored advanced projects) or MIPs (mentored independent projects). both allow students to gain research experience during the academic year or the summer term with a fellow faculty member. by the end of the project, you’ll have your name on some pretty significant research, which is pretty nice and looks good on medical school applications. i would say they’re pretty easy to get if you know the professor and/or care about the research they do! professors care so much about MAPs and MIPs because they not only want to provide you with that research experience but also see you flourish in something you’re passionate about. anyone can get a MAP or a MIP. i know some people who secured a MAP their first year at Grinnell.

furthermore, i know people who have gotten internships at the UofI hospital during the summer as well as secured externships (two-week long internships with an alum that are sponsored by the college) related to their potential future career. the CLS (center for careers, life, and services) is a very good resource for putting you in touch with opportunities (especially if you join the pre-health career community!), you just have to make the effort to go and talk with someone about them. I’m not part of the pre-health career community, but as i said up there ^ about emailing someone in admissions about volunteer opportunities, feel free to include questions about the pre-health career community as well! it’s their job at the CLS to reach out to students about opportunities, so they probably know more than i do.

your introductory science classes (biology, specifically) will have you start doing research on the first day of class. also, there’s a pre-med group designated for underrecognized students pursuing health-related studies. if you’re interested in public health, Grinnell has a program with UofI that allows students to graduate with a BA from Grinnell and a MA in Public Health from UofI in five years instead of six.

2.) keep in mind that the people who completely pursue pre-med/health at any college or university are extremely dedicated and self-selective because, as you know, it’s hard as hail, and the classes will weed out people (like they did to me). about half of the people who apply to medical school from Grinnell are alumni who take a year or so off. most take the MCAT their fourth year, and by that time, many are well prepared to take it. Grinnell does a great job of preparing students for it. i don’t know the average MCAT score at Grinnell off the top of my head, but I’m sure it’s impressive.

one of the founding principles at Grinnell is to provide rigorous academics, and it definitely holds true. the academics are no joke, and they will push you. I’m going to be honest, obtaining a 3.7 will be hard, especially if you major in a STEM field outside of bio or chem (such as physics or compsci). obtaining a 3.7 GPA at nearly any college when you’re pre-med is hard (except at maybe Brown & Harvard lmao). however, it’s not impossible.

one of the best pieces of advice i can provide is DO NOT RUSH YOUR PRE-MED REQUIREMENTS. DO! NOT! RUSH! YOUR! PRE-MED! REQUIREMENTS! many students think they need to get them done as soon as possible, and that is such a mistake. plan them out over your eight semesters. students take bio and chem their first year at Grinnell (they stress that you take one your first semester and one your second semester), then you’ll be taking bio & orgo both semesters of your second year. the second year is when many people struggle and when many people decide to not continue with pre-med. if you get through the second year, you’ll be fine. one of the beautiful things about Grinnell is our open curriculum, so should you decide to attend, take advantage of it. i know people who are pre-med who are majoring in fields such as anthropology, sociology, gwss, econ, and religious studies. it allows you to get your feet wet in so many areas outside of the strict sciences (it also allows you to help pull up that GPA if need be).

3.) not at all! you don’t need a masters before applying to med school from Grinnell.

4.) very supportive! i think i answered this in my first answer.

5.) i think it’s all up to you to decide! I’m not familiar with UW-Madison at all, so i can’t provide any pros and cons for choosing it, but i say if Grinnell is your top choice, and the costs are comparable, take a leap of faith. all schools have an abundance of research opportunities (and let’s be honest, since UW-Madison is much bigger than Grinnell, they more than likely do have more), you just have to be willing to work to pursue them.

i hope this looong post helped you a tiiiny bit! PM me if you have any other questions. i sincerely hope I’ll see you next fall! :smiley:

This was very helpful, thank you so much!

@lilzuni Your questions are the exact same questions my son is dealing with now. He is debating between Grinnell and UW-Madison and will also be biology/pre-med. Have you made your decision yet? Are you concerned (for lack of a better word) at all about moving to such a small town in the middle of nowhere?

Our Son is a Grinnell alumni. Our daughter has made her way to medical school via LAC (Vassar) > Masters of Biologic Science (Tufts) > 2 Med school acceptances. I highly HIGHLY suggest you do the major you are passionate about and if you are interested in medicine also take the 12(14?) core classes you need for medical school. As you progress you will find your path. Schools don’t need to see a Biology, Chemistry, Biochem major. Looking at medical school as an incoming freshman is such a long a winding road that it is a bit overwhelming and run the risk of the path causing you to lose focus. Learn stuff and make sure some is core to medicine. Only the old school MedSch really care about the major. They want MCAT scores, activities that show med passion, and grades.

Medical schools are more and more (not all - need to know your home state school requirements) looking for well rounded LAC type students who can also do science. Grinnell can do this very well. As you progress down the path keep an eye on what your home state schools require. Sure it is nice to think about the top private medical schools and aiming for that is great but the easiest acceptance is always at home. They are also looking for students that are a bit older. 23-26 is actually a plus. If you agree with that then the Masters degrees are just a chance to enhance your MCAT with more knowledge (better schools and acceptance %), volunteerism, and medical exposure.

I am no expert in this area but having gone down this path twice I can say you need to take this one small step at a time.