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<p>National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report</p>
<p>What does USNews use to judge these schools?</p>
<p>I didn’t realize it was so high when some people were worrying about if they could get into it.</p>
<p>It’s a really good school, even if it isn’t selective.</p>
<p>I don’t know how though.</p>
<p>I mean I always thought BostonC > UM, but I guess not.</p>
<p>I think UM has way more prestige than Boston College.</p>
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<li><p>The admit rate at Michigan varies. It was 50% this year; last year it was 41%.</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan is a top 10 university in terms of the quality of its programs.</p></li>
<li><p>USNWR is extremely clear about their ranking criteria. Read the methodology.</p></li>
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<p>[Undergraduate</a> Ranking Criteria and Weights - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/best-colleges/2008/08/21/undergraduate-ranking-criteria-and-weights.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a41:g2:r4:c0.225079:b20174593:z0&s_cid=loomia:about-the-rankingsmethodology]Undergraduate”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/best-colleges/2008/08/21/undergraduate-ranking-criteria-and-weights.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a41:g2:r4:c0.225079:b20174593:z0&s_cid=loomia:about-the-rankingsmethodology)</p>
<p>Notre Dame? lol</p>
<p>It seems your argument is more with the weighting of “rankings” criteria, no? But then it calls into question the whole idea of linear ranking of schools saying A > B > C, eh?</p>
<p>Don’t fall into the trap too deeply about this ranking/prestige thing.</p>
<p>(I’m an HYP grad , almost attended UM. Love their FB team, BTW!)</p>
<p>Admit rate is only 15% of the Selectivity Ranking. Think of it this way: 1000 2.0/1300(out of 2400) students apply to a college, and 10% get in, as there are 50 spots and the expected yield is 50%. 1000 4.0/2300 students apply to another college, and 20% get in, as there are 160 spots and the expected yield is 80%. Which school is more selective?</p>
<p>Because UM relies a lot on sat/gpa, plenty of interested students don’t apply because they know they won’t get in. compare this to Harvard, whose nebulous admissions policies make everybody think they have a shot.</p>
<p>UM has 50% admission rate because it’s a state school, and a shinning one at that. The state legislators of Michigan demand for their decreasing contribution continued preference for in-state students. Several of my friends attended UM out-of-state and they indicated to me that the difference in quality between in-state and out-of-state students is astounding. If UM ever decided to go private, expect its admission rate to sink faster than the Titanic.</p>
<p>Why should it matter whether a school is selective or not? Everyone deserves a chance at a good education. Besides, USNews rankings stink, they look at so many colleges and cannot compare them in enough aspects accurately. I mean they also rely on submissions from the college themselves instead of actually going to the campus and inspecting the school. Just look at what happened with USC.</p>
<p>There are plenty of great schools with high acceptance rates. Just because an ivy has a great ranking doesn’t make it the best for every subject. </p>
<p>Its really up to a person’s self judgment to see that a school is good or not, which is why i abhor rankings, since not everyone weighs things the same.</p>
<p>First of all the reason the University of Michigan is number 26 instead of being in the top 10-15 is because of financial aid issues among students, tuition costs, etc… Most of Michigans programs rank in the top 10. The actual percentage is 70% or so. Don’t let that acceptance rate fool you. Even though Michigans accept rate is 50%, Most students have a 3.7- 3.9 UW GPA. Most instate students get in easier, while most out of state students get rejected. Michigan is very competitive and most people that think they won’t get in, usually don’t apply. Michigan also has a large class size. 6,000 or so Freshan are admitted every year. Last year it was 5700, but due to the economic crisis this year things have change. The USNWR ranking is for 2007 school year. Last years Admit rate was 41%. The Yale Dean of admissions basically stated that rankings are a piece of garbage. They are untrue and it really hurts the admissions process. Most students will apply to top schools because of the ranking and not because of interest. Michigan is a great school. I can’t wait to attend this fall.</p>
<p>Alright thanks a lot everybody this cleared A LOT up.</p>
<p>If U Mich admission relies heavily on SAT/GPA, what range of SAT scores would be considered to be safety and match level for in-state and out of-state respectively?</p>
<p>Well U-M doesn’t rely on SAT as much as GPA and Rigorous courseload. They also don’t publish specific information differentiating In-state and Out of state statistics. I can tell you however the mid 50% of students score between a 1920-2180. Most students have somewhere between a 3.7 - 3.9 UW GPA. It varies among different colleges. For example the Ross Pre-Admit Program probably has the most selective system. Avg. GPA there is a 3.9UW.</p>
<p>For Michigan to be a true “safety” you’d need to be well above the 75th percentile in both GPA and ACT/SAT scores. So that would be roughly in the range of:</p>
<p>Unweighted GPA 4.0 (28% of enrolled freshmen have 4.0)
HS Class Rank top 1% (28% of enrolled freshmen rank in top 1%)
ACT 33+ (middle 50% ACT = 28-32)
SAT CR + M = 1490+ (middle 50% SAT CR + M = 1270=1480)</p>
<p>There is, of course, a chance you’d get in with lower scores. But to genuinely count it as a safety you’d need some pretty impressive stats. Michigan has always weighted GPA and rigor of HS curriculum a little more heavily than ACT/SAT scores, so you should consider those the most important factors. That’s why a lot of in-state residents are scared off and don’t even bother to apply to Michigan when they’ve got a perfectly fine and considerably less selective alternative in Michigan State. That, more than anything else, is why its admit rate is pretty high. It draws a lot of applications from the top HS students in Michigan, but unlike a lot of state flagships it doesn’t draw many who fall outside the top 5-10% of their HS class.</p>
<p>It’s a huge school, they have to accept a lot of students to fill it up.</p>
<p>They’re ranked high because their applicants are very high quality.</p>
<p>For UM to be a real “safety” apply early and have the acceptance in hand before December.</p>
<p>That’s what I did.</p>
<p>Look at it another way. The UC schools (UCB, UCLA etc) will be cutting students, faculty and programs due budget cuts. It might be harder to get into but you will get less too. Is that really the makings of a “better” school when they can’t buy new books and equipment for the labs and you have to wait two years to get the classes you might want? That would be idiocy.</p>
<p>UMich is a great school. Just check out some of their business alumni-
[List</a> of University of Michigan business alumni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Michigan_business_alumni]List”>List of University of Michigan business alumni - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>More than a dozen billionaires. You’d be hard pressed to find another school that nurtures so many B-aires. harvard aside. oh and uMich is public too.</p>