How is U Michigan a top 20 college with 51% admit rate?

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<p>well this is the first year it was so high, likely due to the common app. In previous years only at most 10 kids would apply EA (but usally around 5-8) and most would get in and 1 or 2 would matriculate. But this year everything spiked significantly so 20 something kids applied EA and that’s the case now. </p>

<p>And actually, now that I think about it, probably only 20 something to 30 more will apply regular, seeing as how many of those who would have applied regular other years instead applied EA this year.</p>

<p>But seriously, you are being a little offensive. You haven’t met any of these kids, you don’t know their scores or anything about them. They all have great stats and deserved to get in. Not everyone who deserves to get in does in fact get into a school, which is a sad realty, but that is no reason to hate on the kids who *do *get in because they did deserved it.</p>

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<p>born2dance, Michigan, like all universities, intends to admit students who are qualified AND really want to attend. A 5%-10% yield tells me that students don’t take the University seriously. It tells me that there is a major lack of respect for the University at your school. As such, they do not deserve to be admitted, regardless of their GPA, ECs or test scores. Michigan is an amazing university that anybody should be honored to attend and nobody is entitled to get into based solely on credentials. Every one of Michigan’s peers have a similar admissions philosophy. It is time that Michigan adopts a similar approach. The only way this 5%-10% yield rate can be justified is if those students cannot afford the cost, in which case, Michigan is to blame.</p>

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<p>“Because they know our school. Even though likely only 1 or 2 of these kids will end up there (we kind of use it as a safety…”</p>

<p>I hope admissions is paying attention to this. I agree with you Alexandre. If this is the attitude of most students who apply to Michigan from this particular school, it’s time to send them a message.</p>

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<p>Come on guys, this is ridiculous. The admissions philosophy of most elite universities is not to gauge interest and admit accordingly; it is to accept the best and brightest students. How is this not part of Michigan’s institutional philosophy? Unless public schools have a different academic mission when assembling their student bodies, I don’t see how composing the strongest possible class academically shouldn’t be the biggest priority.</p>

<p>To give you an outside perspective, I know a lot of kids at my alma mater Duke who begrudgingly enroll there after being rejected from HYPSM and Columbia. In fact, there are a bunch of classmates I know that didn’t even write the “Why Duke” essay but the school accepted them anyway since they were very strong students who would be able to take advantage of the university’s resources. However, fast forward 4 years and they couldn’t imagine being at any other university other than Duke have gone on to become very successful people who represent the school well in the real world.</p>

<p>Take TJ, arguably the high school with the strongest student body in the U.S…
<a href=“http://www.tjhsst.edu/curriculum/dss/docs/tjprofile_2011.pdf[/url]”>http://www.tjhsst.edu/curriculum/dss/docs/tjprofile_2011.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>UVA: 233 accepted
CMU: 54 accepted
Duke: 44 accepted
Cornell: 43 accepted
Michigan: 27 accepted
Princeton: 24 accepted
MIT: 23 accepted
Penn: 20 accepted
and so and so forth…</p>

<p>One of my friends from Duke who went to TJ said that besides Harvard and Stanford, every other university in the country has less than a 33% yield rate there. Clearly elite schools like Princeton, Duke, Cornell, MIT, Michigan, etc. don’t care that the a large number and perhaps even the majority of students accepted from this particular high school turn down their offer of admission since those that do enroll tend to be extremely strong students who go on to do great things who make the school look good.</p>

<p>Out of my 5 friends/acquaintances at TJ from Duke, 1 is getting a PhD from Caltech in Physics, 1 is going to Law School at Penn, 1 is going to Med School at Baylor, 1 is getting a MD/PhD at Yale and the last one is doing Commodities Trading for Morgan Stanley in New York.</p>

<p>Who care if students use your school as a safety? In fact, these are the students that a school should be aggressively pursuing as they go on to flourish and make any school proud. Duke benefits from its strong relationship with TJ as I’m sure a lot of Long Island high school s provide a lot of talented students for Michigan who wouldn’t have enrolled if the school didn’t accept so many people.</p>

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<p>Admissions has enough to do without trying to track matriculation by high school! 5 years from now, with more history and better trend lines (from the CommonApp) Mich will better understand where and who it appeals to. But for now? the macro trends (+/- 30% yield) are good enough for most Universities to build out their freshman classes.</p>

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<p>Alexandre would know better but I’m quite sure Admissions already closely tracks matriculation by high school; and I would think expects relatively similar results between schools with the common ap in place. Relatively in the sense that all high school yields would drop proportionately down. Merit scholorships are another tool used to increase yields from States/areas/High Schools where desired. Some merit scholorships are focused on that.</p>

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<p>We were told by ND Admissions counselors, that ND didn’t bother tracking “matriculation by HS” and I’m sure they’re every bit as sophisticated as Mich in the Admin department. We didn’t pose the same ? to Mich.</p>

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<p>naw - here is a web site for just this. Thomas Jefferson in VA had just 1 of 14 matriculate in 2009.</p>

<p>[The</a> Michigan Daily](<a href=“http://data.michigandaily.com/admit]The”>http://data.michigandaily.com/admit)</p>

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<p>Matriculation Percentages at the Top Boarding/High Schools to UM in 2009</p>

<p>Deerfield Academy (MA): 0/11=0%</p>

<p>Choate Rosemary Hall (CT): 3/11= 27.2%</p>

<p>Thomas Jefferson (VA): 1/14= 7.1%</p>

<p>Harvard Westlake (CA): 10/52= 19.2%</p>

<p>Phillips Academy (MA): 5/22= 22.7%</p>

<p>Phillips Exeter (NH): 9/34= 26.5%</p>

<p>Stuyvesant (NY): 9/49= 18.4%</p>

<p>Hunter College High School (NY): 1/14= 7.1%</p>

<p>Bronx High School Of Science (NY): 12/47= 25.5%</p>

<p>Walt Whitman (MD): 12/46= 26.0%</p>

<p>Glenbrook North (IL): 5/27= 18.5%</p>

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<p>I didn’t say “matriculation/yields” wasn’t tracked somewhere. What I was trying to say was; the University doesn’t use/track that information for the purposes of extending offers of admission.</p>

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<p>“The admissions philosophy of most elite universities is not to gauge interest and admit accordingly; it is to accept the best and brightest students.”</p>

<p>Really goldenboy? Is that why most elite private universities have binding early decision plans and enroll over a third of their students through those binding programs? Is that why the acceptance rates for early decision applicants is 2-3 times higher than the acceptance rates for regular decision applicants? In the case of private universities, this ploy is intended to raise yield rate and lower acceptance rate. I personally only wish Michigan gauge the interest of its applicants so that the students who end up at Michigan are happy to be there and we do not develop a “Tufts” syndrome akin to that found at many non-Ivy private elites. I would hate for Michigan to start enrolling students with such insecurities.</p>

<p>Here are some interesting stats. Feast your eyes everybody!</p>

<p>Brown University
ED acceptance rate: 20%
RD acceptance rate: 8%
ED students as % of total freshman class: 38%
Yield including ED applicants: 53%
RD yield rate: 42%</p>

<p>Cornell University
ED acceptance rate: 33%
RD acceptance rate: 16%
ED students as % of total freshman call: 37%
Yield including ED applicants: 48%
RD yield rate: 36%</p>

<p>Dartmouth College
ED acceptance rate: 29%
RD acceptance rate: 10%
ED students as % of total freshman class: 40%
Yield including ED applicants: 52%
RD yield rate: 39%</p>

<p>Duke University
ED acceptance rate: 36%
RD acceptance rate: 18%
ED students as % of total freshman class: 32%
Yield including ED applicants: 41%
RD yield rate: 32%</p>

<p>Northwestern University
ED acceptance rate: 39%
RD acceptance rate: 26%
ED students as % of total freshman call: 28%
Yield including ED applicants: 31%
RD yield rate: 24%</p>

<p>University of Pennsylvania
ED acceptance rate: 34%
RD acceptance rate: 11%
ED students as % of total freshman call: 55%
Yield including ED applicants: 63%
RD yield rate: 43%</p>

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<p>lol…Deerfield’s number is hilarious… 0 out of 18 over 3 years…</p>

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<p>At the Dartmouth information session, they tell the families that it is not easier to be accepted ED; the higher ED acceptance rate is due to the Div I athletes.</p>

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<p>"lol…Deerfield’s number is hilarious… 0 out of 18 over 3 years… "</p>

<p>Why is that “hilarious?” On the other hand, why should Michigan even bother admitting anyone from there? Defer 'em all! Can you imagine the hit to the psyche? “I was accepted at Harvard but deferred from Michigan.” Now, that would be hilarious. :-)</p>

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<p>Michigan has done much better with the Phillips Academies, St. Paul’s, Hotchkiss (bearcats?), Collegiate, Choate, Lawrenceville, Taft, Loomis and Northfield Mount Hermon. From 2005-2009, those 6 schools :</p>

<p>350 admits, of which 85 (25%) matriculated. That’s pretty good (as high as any non-east coast university save Stanford).</p>

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<p>New data for Class of 2016:
15,523 Admitted out of 42,535 Applications = 36.5% acceptance rate</p>

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<p>Michigan is indeed rather easy to get into, relatively speaking, compared to other top schools.</p>

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<p>floridadad: Maybe a couple of years ago. But it’s definitely getting harder and harder. Next year’s admission rate will be even lower.</p>

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<p>[About</a> Our Applicants | University of Michigan Office of Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.umich.edu/drupal/about-our-applicants]About”>http://www.admissions.umich.edu/drupal/about-our-applicants)</p>

<p>Middle 50th percentile for ACT composite and SAT both up from a year ago, ~3,000 more applications received, ~550 less applications accepted.</p>

<p>Admission rate down from 40.6% for Fall 2011 to 36.5% for Fall 2012. The rate should continue to decrease as more applications come in each year, and less students are accepted (I heard there is a deliberate decrease in class size starting this year, but that info isn’t confirmed).</p>

<p>It’s a highly selective school, especially for OOS, and will continue to get more difficult to get in. Many of the students that apply appear qualified on paper, but they can only take so many.</p>

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<p>You can never forget the difference between OOS and IS</p>