<p>It might be of that Yale guy from Jamshedpur who got 60-70% in his mid-terms, but (keeping my hands on HOLY GITA) I can say that you told me 85%, 85 85 85 85 for the kolkata Yalie…</p>
<p>Which school have you joined now? Are your in your Junior year or Senior? Its been a long time I have spoken to you.</p>
<p>I’m convinced of the fact that I did not not not tell you that he scored an 85%. I mean, is it possible to score an 85 in ISC when they dole out marks like no other board does?
I dont think that there will ever be an end to this argument, so I guess I’ll just end by saying that he scored a 91 and deserves to be where he is.</p>
<p>and you know what - the adcoms are very well aware of the W (marks graph-figure is like W) of the Indian marks system…
It falls in 9, rises insanely in 10 boards, falls depressingly in 11, and rises significantly in 12 boards (but not very high for some of the IITJEEians & AIEEEians like me, esconie, gary7, etc - talking only about the boards marks - how the hell can I compare myself to these guys until n unless i be '15)</p>
<p>Ani-she specifically said that for HYP,etc…I just want to know about the majority,did they have stellar marks?how about your sister who went to cornell,what did her transcript look like?</p>
<p>My brother goes to Princeton and everytime he comes home for the summer we meet the newly admitted class to Princeton at a get together (the year he was admitted, we also met the class for Yale '11). Not a single person had 11th standard marks under 90% (I know this is crazy). I know some who had 80s in their tenth boards; most are headboys/headgirls at their schools (about 3 out of 5 I’d say). Some of the people admitted to Yale had slightly lower scores but definitely over 85. </p>
<p>When I was admitted to Duke and Brown this year, I met the incoming classes; everyone had 11th standard scores in the high 80s and mostly 90s. Of the few people I have made friends with, their 12th board scores are 98 (ISC), 97.8(ISC), 97 (I forgot the board) and after I checked these three I did not check others (because I had a 91 CBSE I was very happy with until…).</p>
<p>11th scores are vitally important, a 79 won’t ruin your application, but you should have something to redeem it. I had an 86.2 (PCMBE) in 11th. </p>
<p>The problem that a lot of students face is that they waste their 11th thinking about too many things like US+IIT or just having fun without making up their minds about what they really want. Then when they get pathetic scores, they blame their school’s marking systems. Colleges know that students can get 90s in 11th if they work really hard. For every smart kid who didn’t get a 90 in 11th, there are other smart kids who did the work and managed it. So HYP with a 79 is improbable. </p>
<p>MIT might overlook a 79 if you’re a real hands-on technical guy who likes making robots. Ivies and Stanford - not so much. </p>
<p>Okay,here’s the deal.The class highest is an 83.My 79 is the 3rd highest.Nobody in the science stream has ever ever gotten a 90+ in 11th,even though a few commercies have.In very rare cases.Would you believe me when i say my 78 in chem is the highest for 12th midterms?And oh yeah,that my school just prepared an aieee level math paper,and my yucky 65 is frickin 3rd highest?</p>
<p>And that 3/4th of the class failed that math test?Im not blaming my school system needlessly,it really is horrible.
Guitarclassical-thanks for the stats though,it helps provide a serious perspective on where i stand.Im in a fix now,tbh.Here i was thinking they care more about rank.</p>
<p>Look at my school there was a huge gap between my scores and the scores of kids who came 2nd. In 11th - 86 was first followed by 77 to be accurate. The difference was that my scores mattered to me, and their scores did not matter to them. </p>
<p>2/3rds of our class failed the physics exam in 11th. So it’s not a party at our school either. Only one person has managed 90+ in 11th sciences (ever) at my school, and he’s the only one who’s made it to Princeton. </p>
<p>The thing is, if you want to go to the ivies, your scores matter to you, you can’t say that you came second with 75 percent when all the geniuses at your school weren’t even preparing for their exams (they were studying for IIT of course). That is why rank will not bail you out of a bad score. </p>
<p>Here’s what I’m saying - Start early (10th at the latest), and work your ass off, especially in 11th. When they just have to take 10 kids each, they will find someone who has done the work.</p>
<p>how do the Ivies and others look at a sudden drop in marks - for reasons other than prep for IIT…there will be many students who had the ability to perform well in the boards, but for personal reasons (family issues, personal issues etc) they fail to…what happens in such cases???</p>
<p>Guitarclassical-thanks for taking the time to explain,any advice you could give to salvage the situation would be highly welcome.
Rsaksena-that is def looked into,mention it in additional info.They always say that they consider this.On a harsher note,every family has problems and by the top clgs you are expected to cope with them.It’s a tough competition.</p>
<p>and how about students who did not get good marks because they were foolish enough to ignore academics, even though they could have done very well??</p>
<p>rsaxena: There’s no way they can verify that. And even if they could, there are plenty of people who did work hard enough. You’ll be competing against them.</p>
<p>I regard UMich to be in the same league as that of a HYP. I mean, look at the rankings.
My sister went to Cornell for her masters…</p>
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Then it’s good, right? They lay a lotta emphasis on context. </p>
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<p>Would you believe that the highest in chem in my class was a 44/70 [66/100]? I go to a school where 6/30 people last year who were preparing for some form of engineering entrance examination actually got into an IIT.</p>