<p>i had a 2.0 in hs, 1200 SAT (verbal,math). currently have 3.8 at a state school (unranked us news). when i apply for transfer next year how much weight is given to HS record. I've been lurking in these forums and everyone constantly says that for sophmore transfers its important but not so much when it comes to junior transfers. planning to apply to canegie mellon,wake forest, rochester, gtown, NYU, case western, syracuse, george washington. I'm gonna eventually drop some of those schools and hope to have alist of 5-6. What are my chances?</p>
<p>I wrote this whole response that was about UCs but I see your post has nothing to do with UCs, but here is my response anyways just in case it helps someone...:</p>
<p>Your high school transcript does not matter at all. They don't care if you got all Cs or all As. They don't even ask for grades from HS or SAT. They do ask for transcripts from high school AFTER they've made admission decisions. The only reason they ask for it at that point is to see if it satisfies some of their requirements so that you don't have to take as many classes. Also, I guess they wanna know you have a diploma.</p>
<p>For me, I didn't have to take language at community college becuase I took 2 years in high school.</p>
<p>what are my chances tho for those schools with a 3.8?</p>
<p>I don't believe smith is correct. I believe you will be asked for your hs transcript and to report on your hs grades as part of the application. They will be taken into consideration by many, if not most, schools. But they will not be the main point, once you have 2 years of college under your belt.</p>
<p>Work on your essays and showing, throughout your application, that your college record - not your high school record - is an accurate reflection of your academic potential.</p>
<p>Key for you: great college prof recommendations. If you do not already know 2 college profs well enough to know that you will get great ones, make that a priority for fall term.</p>
<p>You can do it. Good luck.</p>
<p>jmmom is correct. Your HS record, will not be considered as much, but still will be looked at. To put it in perspective</p>
<p>I got into U-M on a 2.75 Weighted GPA (their own weight), 26 ACT, and a 4.0 in college (1 semester, total year came out to be 3.93)</p>
<p>jmmomm - you misread my post. my statement was regarding the university of california campuses. i just went through the entire application process and they didnt ask one question about hs gpa or hs grades, other than asking if i got a c or better in 2 years of language. </p>
<p>after i wrote my response i realized that this thread is not about the university of california campuses, but i left my post up because i felt like it maybe it would help someone.</p>
<p>It won't be all that significant. It may in some way be a plus if they're looking for a student who has shown a dramatic improvement.</p>
<p>Gotcha smith. I didn't realize you were summarizing the UC situation only. I'm kind of the opposite of you - I try never to answer UC transfer qx because their process is so different from most other schools, where I have more experience. (Even tho I went to Cal, but that was for grad school and not as a transfer).</p>
<p>great ty everyone. one more think how do u get LOR's for like half a dozen different schools. can u photocopy them? what if they have different questions, this is really starting to annoy me lol.</p>
<p>Can anybody sort of estimate how much weight is given to certain factors such as college gpa, high school gpa, etc? I'm gearing up to start applying for a few schools myself for Fall 08, although it is some time period away.</p>
<p>Rangers - re the LORs for several schools (my S applied to 10! because he had to leave Tulane post-Katrina due to elimination of his major and wouldn't be able to visit schools to find fit until after acceptances). Don't sweat it.</p>
<p>Very few schools care about whether the prof actually uses their form. I did not see any variation in the questions asked in 10 schools.</p>
<p>Here is what you do: ask the profs if they will do recommendations for you. Give them plenty of time (eg, ask at the end of fall term. which gives them the holidays plus a couple of months, since most apps are due in March).</p>
<p>Give them the actual form for any school which really seems to care that you use their form (there was a max of 1 like this among my son's schools). Give them stamped addressed envelopes for each school. Put the due date in pencil on the envelope for each school. The prof will word-process and copy/print out the requisite number of recommendations and mail them.</p>
<p>lilkrnq - I think we can only guess at weighting, and I think it varies by school. My guess, not weighted but in order of importance, for most schools:</p>
<p>College GPA
Strength of college curriculum taken (no basket weaving ;) )
College recommendations
Relevance of courses taken to intended major/program (if declared)
SAT
High school record
ECs</p>
<p>Any of these can vary based on your own circumstances (eg, amazing ECs might trump SAT/high school record, etc.) and the school.</p>
<p>I disagree to a large extent with jmmom. While we may be "guessing" at what different schools are looking for, I think it is more of an educated guess...allow me to explain, after first going off on a little tangent. </p>
<p>Hopefully, this will answer your question about high school grades...I like to think of each year as a data point. For example, high school is data point 1, freshmen year is data point 2, and sophomore year is data point 3. Now... we are going to plot your overall gpa and create a trend-line. (We are going to assume that we need two distinct points to make a line). So, if you transfer after sophomore year, adcoms can accurately predict your line based on your two years of college. Analyzing the slope of "your trend-line" gives a good sense to what adcoms see. The goal is clearly to have a trend-line that is either increasing or at a steady-state. This isn't to say that adcoms don't look at the other data points, but with a great trend-line, you can make a poor data point seem like an outlier. So basically, the more "data points" you accumulate, the less impact the earlier data points have.</p>
<p>Ok, I am not sure if that makes any sense. I disagree with jmmom because he left out critical information. Jmmom forgot to mention the transfer essays and the reason to transfer (if they aren't the same thing). Adcoms look at gpa, there is no doubt, but most people transferring to a respectable school have a high gpa. So what can distinguish a student from another is a good reason to transfer as well as top-notch transfer essays. I would say, for a transfer with more than one year of college under their belt, a rank of importance would be:</p>
<p>Gpa
Transfer Reason
Courseload
Transfer Essays
LOR's</p>
<p>And the rest is clear. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. I just transferred into Upenn for chemE after two years of college. I say this because my SATs and high school grades were not good at all...they were mediocre at best. I was in a similar situation, so perhaps I can help.</p>
<p>tdjr - you are right, I totally spaced out on the application - reason for transfer and (maybe even more important) reason to transfer to <em>this</em> school; as well as other personal essays. Including those, my guess of order of importance would be:</p>
<p>College GPA
Strength of college curriculum taken (no basket weaving )
Reason for transfer to this school (showing in-depth knowledge of the school)
College recommendations
Relevance of courses taken to intended major/program (if declared)
SAT
High school record
ECs</p>
<p>Other personal essays would fit I'm not sure where. Probably totally depends on the situation - could be an important tipping factor, or not important at all in some situations if candidate is really strong in other areas.</p>
<p>jmmom, EC is far more important than what you have given credit for.</p>
<p>Which items is it more important than?</p>