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<p>I assume you meant not so smart. </p>
<p>Why do you think that everyone values hard money the way you do? Money is not the standard that most people use to determine value. The standard that people use is getting what they want. Often that is not associated with a dollar value. Therefore, if a SB gets to keep the apartment she wants, then that $500 is as good a value to her as $10K. The value to her is living there, not the money. </p>
<p>aw, I get it from what you wrote. But I doubt that they think through all this. I wonder if and when they get settle, would they brag to their kids that mommy got paid $500 to have sex with this older, creepy person(assumption). I think from what I’ve read, people whose nude picture were taken like Vanessa Williams( years ago) expressed regrets. She spent years undo that mistake. She had to hire people to undo that youthful mistake.</p>
<p>I confess I’m a little bit perplexed in how awcntdb simultaneously knows what the roles of men and women “should” be, but also says this: “You do not seem to get that they value different things than you do.” </p>
<p>“awcntdb runs in very high social circles and doesn’t seem to have a need to exaggerate these things. I think I know who he is but have no interest in outing him on a public forum.”</p>
<p>Based on what do you conclude this? He’s got some money and went to a fancy school? Lots of us on here did. </p>
<p>sorg, yes I’m greedy and they are not. Biggest laugh of the day, and more about they are not in it just for the money. Like I wrote earlier, it is what it is. I have no problem they are doing that, it’s the oldest profession in the world. but lets not come up with fancy term, fancy anything to describe what they are doing. </p>
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This is more laughable. They are doing mainly for money, and they don’t value money. Another laughable comment. They probably too stupid to know how to charge the right amount. Short term thinking.</p>
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<p>Funny you mention Vanessa Williams. I actually know a guy, quite well, who dated her. Though, he did not know about those pics until they came out. </p>
<p>Anyway, not all regret like you state - Kim K., Paris Hilton, Kendra W. etc. and a whole host of others do not regret.</p>
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<p>No more or no less so than a mom telling her kids that she hooked up with 30+ guys in college and had a threesome in her dorm basement. All women (and men) have stuff they would not tell their kids sex-wise, whether it involved money or not. </p>
<p>But I still think there is a difference when there is no money involved. For some people, the hook up culture is also not considered something to brag about either.</p>
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<p>I’m also not impressed by the claim that these young women simply value different things than the rest of us. If what they value leads them into prostitution, there is something wrong with their values. Of course that’s my opinion. Other people are entirely free to hold contrary but erroneous opinions.</p>
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<p>…to get what they want. The endgame is what they want, whatever that is. And we know that is reason because they do not save the money, they spend it on what they want. </p>
<p>Just because economics systems are set up to pay for things with money, does not mean that money is the goal. Money is only a means to the goal. </p>
<p>So no, they are not doing it for the money on its face, as they are not saving or hoarding the money. They are doing it to get what they want. And they want different things than you do. And they value wanting different things than you do. I get that. Not all women are the same; just like all men are not the same.</p>
<p>You are putting a hat on that pig again, awcntdb.</p>
<p>By your definition, the only people who could ever be said to be doing anything “for the money” would be collectors of rare coins. </p>
<p>LOL, no they are doing for the metal value?</p>
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<p>Same reasoning why some people understand fine art and some see the same, as a silly painting. It is all on how you view it. I understand the SD-SB scenario is a pig to you and others. But there are many women and men who see it differently and are happy to partake.</p>
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<p>You clearly have not talked to any SBs. I recommend you do talk to a few before thinking and assuming that they are like you.</p>
<p>They are users. So is that better than a pig in a hat?</p>
<p>People can rationalize any kind of vice or even crime that you can think of. I have no doubt that some of these high-priced prostitutes have a very rational explanation of why they do it. That doesn’t alter the fact that what they are doing is prostituting themselves.</p>
<p>If you read one of the articles, it was late, the girl didn’t want to go to see sugar daddy because she had class in the morning. So that was the clue. It was not something she wanted to do, but in a way it was forced, time wise.</p>
<p>“And they value wanting different things than you do. I get that. Not all women are the same; just like all men are not the same.”</p>
<p>But I thought that because I’m a woman, I’m supposed to be similar to all other women in what I want, think, feel – not just in my physical biology. Isn’t that why we women as a class are supposed to be treated differently from men as a class? And why we’re all supposed to have more angst in work/life issues than men – because we’re all, at one level, the same?</p>
<p>I’m not buying the “happy hooker” line of argument.</p>
<p>I think paying others for intimate services is a bad idea. It may provide a degree of control, but that control dehumanizes the purchaser as well. If you think every woman is only after your money, it doesn’t help to hang around with women whose sole reason to be with you is… your money. </p>
<p>By the way, I’d like to drop the whole “Sugar Baby”/“Sugar Daddy” nonsense. If you don’t want to say whore and john, say prostitute and customer, or mistress and protector. </p>