How to count scholarships for equivalency purposes? Help.

<p>I'm confused about how state schools count equivalency scholarships when they have different tuition rates. For example, assume a sport has 10 scholarships allowed under NCAA rules, with the following two fully-funded programs. </p>

<p>The first public school has 20 out of state athletes, and no in-state athletes, and the total cost of attendance for out of state is $40,000. They essentially have $400,000 to work with, right?</p>

<p>The second public school has 10 in-state athletes and 10 out of state athletes and the cost of attendance in-state is $10,000, out of state is $40,000. Do they also have $400,000 to work with? Can it fund the 10 out of state athletes $30,000 each, and the in-staters $10,000 each? Or if it funds the 10 out of staters $30,000 each (10 x 75%), they could only fund the in-staters $2500 each (10 x 25%)??</p>

<p>It seems that a number of state schools pull almost entirely from their state (Penn State, for example), while others have much more diversity (e.g. North Carolina). I wonder if these rules are driving that behavior, or maybe it's something else.</p>

<p>I'm commenting about swimming in particular, but I assume the rules apply to any funded sport.</p>

<p>Thanks for any info!</p>

<p>I can’t say for sure, but I think it might work on %s. Where we have been offered, a $ amount as well as a % was stated. I wondered at the time why the latter was, but now I think that might be the reason. 10% + 30% + 20% + 40% = 100% or 1 scholarship irrespective of the amounts behind the percentages ???</p>

<p>Hastomen123</p>

<p>Because of the way the NCAA rules are written your second example would essentially be correct:</p>

<p>“funds the 10 out of staters $30,000 each (10 x 75%), they could only fund the in-staters $2500 each (10 x 25%)”</p>

<p>Which would end up being 10 equivalent scholarships. Your first example would be 17.5 equivalent scholarships.</p>

<p>Some schools such as North Carolina have more out of state swimmers because the school itself is popular. Other state schools such as Cal, Texas, and Georgia have more out of state swimmers because the coaches and facilities are much better than other schools. In general coaches from state schools like to recruit swimmers from their own state when they can. </p>

<p>Thanks swimkidsdad. I guess that defines “equivalency” perfectly. </p>

<p>Another way to think of it is that a scholarship is the COA, regardless of whether it’s in-state or out-of-state. As Researchmum said, the sum of the percentages is what counts, not the dollar amount.</p>

<p>Since you brought up UNC, the State of NC mandates an 18% cap on out-of-state students in the UNC system (at least they did as of 2010.) But full scholarship (headcount sports), were counted as in-state. Here’s an excerpt from an editorial in the UNC Alumni Association,
" In a provision added to the state budget last fall, full scholarship recipients from outside the state are considered in-state for tuition purposes. The idea is to offset the impact on athletics booster groups and scholarship benefactors of tuition increases at many campuses.</p>

<p>In addition, you do indeed have to take into account the overall cost of attendance. In swimming, there can be many ways that coaches use their ten scholarships that lead to a greater number of athletes being scholarshipped. this includes “book only” awards, “athletic dining facility access only” awards, and then the differential scholarships between in state and OOS students.
Some schools, especially it seems in men’s swimming, only offer flat dollar amount scholarships, which is to the benefit of the school and not to the swimmer, since tuition rises each year, and there is no guarantee on scholarship increases at the same pace. Ideally, you’ll push for a % scholarship offer so you understand your own financial commitment as well.<br>
Also, unless your swimmer is in the top 50 in the US, often you will see freshmen with very small scholarships and the scholarship increase each year the swimmer participates. This is a good question to ask the coach–the school’s scholarship philosophy will dictate the coaches actions in this matter.</p>