<p>^Standford!!??? they don't have any programs like that....
What's Irvine?</p>
<p>"Brown is pretty good too, and the med school is much cheaper in comparison to many med schools, which may or may not make up for the exorbitant undergrad cost depending on your financial situation."</p>
<p>For those with financial need, PLME can be cheaper than going elsewhere - thanks to Brown's generous financial aid. My son got a better FA pkg from Brown than Case. Not sure about UMiami since he got the Singer Scholarship (full tuition) so no need based aid. Brown recently announced an increase in FA so the situation may be even better for PLMEs this year. Don't let cost deter you from applying (if EFC is sky high, that's a different story).</p>
<p>Michigan state's Medical Scholars Program actually offers guidance and lectures and stuff, not just like a random guarantee and then leave you alone for four years or have ridiculous requirements to meet. after doing research research on it i think it's pretty decent.</p>
<p>plus, MSU gives out scholarships. And so do their med school.</p>
<p>i'd have to say second tier.</p>
<p>I think we should also look at whether the program lets you apply out without any ramifications (like losing your spot at their med school). If you rock your MCAT and have a solid shot at a top med school, I think you would want to apply out.</p>
<p>I know UIC GPPA, VCU/MCV let you apply out, no consequences. I dunno about anywhere else.</p>
<p>ppenguin: Does USC bacc/md let you apply out w/out losing your spot?</p>
<p>Tier 1: Caltech/UCSD med scholars</p>
<p>1337</p>
<p>agreed^^^^</p>
<p>@ Mike,</p>
<p>Irvine has a program? I didn't think they did.</p>
<p>@ icy,</p>
<p>I'm torn between Tier 2 and Tier 3 for MSU. Yes, there's lots of opportunities and stuff, but if you look at where their medical school's residency placements, it's not up to par with the other schools in Tier 2.</p>
<p>@ Broncos,</p>
<p>I'm NOT 100% sure, but I believe that if you put other schools on the AMCAS you will not be penalized. I'll check up on that on Monday.</p>
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<p>YOU, not your school, can pretty much decide where you go for residency. It doesn't matter where you go as long as you have sky-high step 1 scores and good grades.</p>
<p>hmm. i would agree to put brown and usc on tier one, but case into tier 2. the undergrad is just not that great, even if they give out money. as for nu, brown, and usc, their undergrad and med schools are not to be sniffed at by any means</p>
<p>If your EFC isn't sky high, PLME can wind up costing a lot LESS than attending your state school. Brown was good last year, but it just improved its FA so the situation is even better now. Too bad Harvard and Yale don't have combined programs; they would probably be free.</p>
<p>^Exactly. This whole thing about Ivy Leagues puffing up their FA is really great, especially for PLMEs who have medical school to worry about.</p>
<p>yea...so much for FA...I suppose I'm a bit biased because I'm getting none at all. Seems kind of unfair especially if your parents are unwilling to pay that much--ur basically being punished for having somewhat affluent parents.</p>
<p>i think the Brown PLME is the most selective undergraduate program in the country. it's unique compared to all the others because it is designed to give unparalleled flexibility in undergraduate education prior to entering medical school. moreover, brown medical student match into the best residencies in the country as evidenced by this list
<a href="http://bms.brown.edu/students/match/%5B/url%5D">http://bms.brown.edu/students/match/</a></p>
<p>umkc is horrid. I got in but it's not even a consideration for me at this point.</p>
<p>Where would you guys rank the St. Bonaventure/George Washington gmed program? or George Washington as a medical school?</p>
<p>I don't know anything about St. Bonaventure, but I do know GW is a great med school (with some very high profile clientele).</p>
<p>okay... STANFORD???
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<p>Just to clarify some things: USC's program does allow you to apply out without loosing your guarantee. Additionally, Bacc/MD students are enrolled in a mandatory program that includes lectures and research, clinical and volunteer experiences.</p>
<p>According to some Bacc/Md students from this year, about half the bacc/md class ends up leaving for other medical schools. This year, there were 3 acceptances to Yale, 10 to UCLA, and a few to other top programs (UCSF, UCSD, JH).</p>
<p>Keck does not fare too well in rankings, but I've spoken to numerous students at Keck who say that it is on its way up. For example, this past year, the average USMLE step 1 score for Keck students was a 233 (To put things into perspective, on average a 230 will make you competitive for top residency programs, assuming the rest of your application is up to par as well) According to a quick google search, Upenn average is around 236, Wash U around 232, Duke 236. Also, Keck students match pretty well, with students matching to competitive fields like plastics, ortho, etc.</p>
<p>If anyone is interested in seeing the matchlist: File</a> crunch :: Download File</p>
<p>Source</a> for USMLE scores for other schools
Source</a> for USC Scores</p>
<p>WOW 3 to Yale, 10 to LA, and some to those other top programs?!
The price tag has a $100,000 differential between the Boston University and USC Keck program for me..which is pretty significant since I'll be on my own in terms of loans once I go to med school from USC but parents can help out some for med school if I go through BU..but the BU program locks me into BUSM. I was/am heavily leaning towards the BU program.
Any advice to sway my opinion one way or another definitively?</p>
<p>In all honesty, I think there are two main things you need to look at when you choose which college you will attend (from the myriad you have been accepted to).</p>
<p>First, consider your financial situation, if one institution is significantly better financially, they definitely consider that option. Next, consider how you "fit" at the school. Fit is definitely the most important factor. Fit ensures that you remain happy and motivated at the school past freshmen year.</p>