<p>Can someone help me? I am at the end of sophomore year, doing some reflection and realized I made many bad decisions in the last few years. First of all, I should never have turned down Wharton and Tepper. Well less so Wharton because I just didnt like UPenn but the brand name factor is just huge...but I actually liked CMU and liked Tepper but chose michigan afterall, not that big of a deal coz i was also a Ross Preadmit.</p>
<p>Then I guess I got wrong information and thought that with a quantitative background due to engineering and the business side of IOE I'd be more competitive than a business school major and therefore I decided to forgo my spot at Ross and stay in IOE. And then now I realize some firms dont even recruit outside of Ross. </p>
<p>And I was told that in IOE you can specialize your degree either in ergonomics or operations management/financial analysis. Apparently it's only semi true because even though you can choose corporate finance, derivative pricing and decision analysis and modelling class at 300 and 400 level, you are still stuck with a number of ergonomics classes, which sucks because ergonomics is just memorizing the textbook and pretend that you know something, and the thing is most recruiters probably view you as just another clueless engineer who doesnt know much about finance who wants to break in and lump you in with other disciplines like ME i guess ?</p>
<p>I am sick and tired of IOE and I want to transfer to a business program or a more "business engineering program" (i thought michigan IOE was but apparently not business oriented enough). The only thing i could think of is financial engineering but we dont offer it here. It's probably too late to apply to transfer to other schools anyway because I'll be starting junior year next year. It's not like I could switch majors either because most IOE classes really dont count as major classes for any majors...</p>
<p>What can I do??????????????????????????????????????????????????</p>
<p>sincerely,
desperate and frustrated student who's completely disappointed with Michigan's IOE program</p>
<p>Bearcats, did you really get an offer from DE Shaw? I have a hard time believing that someone who as a sophomore in this market managed to get an internship at a firm that Wharton students drool over would be this frustrated with their career prospects.</p>
<p>i dont want quant finance. I want to be considered like any other business majors who is looking for a financial analyst job… if you get what i mean? more like i dont want to be the “quantitative geek who does high frequency trading” …I dont know how i can explain it</p>
<p>I’d rather be an intern analyst but not a proprietary trading programming intern if you get what i mean…</p>
<p>Well you can still transfer to another school if you want. Try applying for a transfer next semester if you’re really sick of Michigan IOE. Transferring to Ross wouldn’t be the best decision since you’ll have to spend another 3 years at the school. Have you looked at other schools that interest you? like Chicago or Northwestern?</p>
<p>OK, I guess that makes more sense. If you just want to be an IBD Analyst, being at a target school is way more important than what you study. Ross would require an extra year so you could just try to transfer to some ivy and major in econ – I have heard of people doing this as sophomores. However, you’ve probably got a solid resume so it is still very possible to get interviews with companies/divisions that don’t recruit CoE. Also, I don’t get why you would still consider an engineering/business program when you are so averse to doing anything quant-ish as a career.</p>
<p>"Also, I don’t get why you would still consider an engineering/business program when you are so averse to doing anything quant-ish as a career. "</p>
<p>to be honest?? i dont know…i had a brainfart</p>
<p>If you are likely to lose credits by transferring and need to add an additional year anyway, why not complete your current degree to have something upon which to build or fall back and then set your sights on an MBA? That would be a great combination.</p>
<p>bearcats, regretting attending Michigan over CMU is sad. Academically, Michigan is only slightly better, but in terms of overall undergraduate experience, there is no comparison. Not a single person I know who went to CMU loved it there. Not one out of the dozen of my classmates who attended. Some described it as an “ok experience” and most dismissed it as a poor college experience. 4 of the 14 transfered to other schools because they were miserable. </p>
<p>I can understand your regretting not attending Wharton. I personally turned Penn (CAS, not Wharton) down in favor of Michigan and never regretted it. In fact, I made the right decision because again, academically, Michigan roughly equal to Penn, but the overall experience at Michigan is better than that at Penn. But if you want prestige in the corporate World, Wharton does edge out most universities (Michigan included) save Harvard and Princeton. </p>
<p>At any rate, I doubt there is a door that Wharton can open that Michigan cannot. At the end of the day, Michigan is a clear top 10 university, not just in the US, but in the World. If you can get into HYPSM, turn Michigan down…otherwise, there isn’t a better place to go for college than Michigan.</p>