<p>ALSO, if you think college admissions counselors are not reading this, you are wrong. Ask WillmingtonWave</p>
<p>Look, there is no “secret formula” to gain the system or anything like that.</p>
<p>Willmingtonwave, the phrase is “game the system”</p>
<p>Saketm and to whom it may concern:</p>
<p>I sincerely apologize if this came off as obnoxious; I didn’t mean it to be. I wrote this the night I was admitted and I was excited. I received help from people in crafting my application, and wanted to do the same for others who weren’t so assisted. I’m not saying there’s a secret formula, though I can see it coming off that way. I was just saying that WFU cares about the person going to the college, not just their scores and thus the applicant’s supplements must stand out. I’ve had a number of students request suggestions to their supplements, and I have edited and given suggestions to each and every supplement just like others did to mine. I am normally a caring and humble person, but perhaps I phrased my message in the wrong fashion. Stating scores and stuff was just to prove to people that one needs to focus on their supplements because they provide a lot of weight. If I came off drastically different in this post than I observed, it was likely my excitement. I am extremely humbled to be going to Wake Forest and to this day still have trouble believing it. From the bottom of my heart, I am sorry for any negative feelings I may have expressed or a distasteful post, and I don’t think I would have been admitted to WFU with the personality you think I have, considering the weight of interviews.</p>
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<p>Why? Why read the application “in context”? Why not read the application in the context of the application pool? In Texas, there are high-ranking high schools (in Dallas and San Antonio and Round Rock) where fully 50% of the school scores better and is smarter than the top 10% in places like Lubbock, Amarillo, etc. etc. So, you will admit the kids who “succeed” in the dumpy school and deny kids – smarter by far – who are down the class rank scale in a Newsweek top 50 school? Geez, what college is stuck with you reading their apps? This compare “within the context of the school” is a sure way to deny the Andover grads (who would wipe the floor against kids at all but the top 5 schools anywhere) and accept the stumblebums who achieve greatness “in the context” of the manure pile. Estupido!!</p>
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<p>I see you missed the point (or do not know what the word context means)–I will explain:
It is important to NOT compare applicants with VERY DIFFERENT experience against each other in the way that you are describing. For example, Andover is obviously a competitive school and it is not fair to knock an Andover student who is in the bottom 20% of their class with a 2.8 GPA–therefore it is read in the context of Phillips Andover Academy and how competitive academics are at the school. By the same token, a student who goes to school in rural Arkansas, should not be knocked because their school does not offer formal AP classes. It is the only fair way to do it. If you don’t think 99% of colleges in the country are reading applications this way then you are kidding yourself.</p>
<p>I’d suggest in the future to not discuss things you don’t have the slightest clue about.</p>
<p>Hey everyone! I just wanted to put my two cents in. I was just admitted through the early decision program as well. My stats were pretty good, I’ll admit. And I’m from Vermont (which I imagine has to help a bit). But otherwise I’m just a white girl… who thought she bombed her interview. Be prepared for some interesting questions. But also, don’t worry how it goes too much. I was freaking out after mine thinking it was awful, and yet I got a big white envelope in the mail a few weeks later. Good luck to everybody!</p>
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<p>Are you in high school? I bet you are.</p>
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<p>Maybe you brilliant admissions readers should enlighten me: in what respect have I misread your post about “in the context of Phillips Andover Academy.” Let me post a simple choice: you have the choice of taking the 2.8 Phillips Academy grad OR the non-AP, 4.0, rural Arkansas grad. Who do you take? One or the other. Don’t hedge out and say “O well, I need to know about ECs, and recs, and blah blah blah.” Assume they are both absolutely equal on the scale. Whom would you choose? Outside of the Ivy League, I would wager that ANY school would prefer the Andover kid because having Andover grads on campus is a sign of quality. The Arkansas kid, eh, meh. If colleges indeed admit kids on the basis of “in the context of their school” as you suggest, there would NOT be such a premium on Andover grads and second tier institutions – and there is.</p>
<p>Perhaps the premium is not for the “Andover grad” but for the parents ability to full pay tuition.</p>
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<p>So if you were the Director of Admissions at a school - you would focus all your resources on getting students ONLY from elite prep schools? If that is how college admissions work (which they dont), why do they spend resources on attracting other students from other schools?</p>
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<p>Many schools would take the 4.0 student from Arkansas. Colleges love geographic diversity. They enjoy stating that they have students from all 50 states. The Arkansas student might also provide socio-economic diversity that the Andover student most likely would not. Colleges like variety - it makes for a more interesting class. The hypothetical 4.0 student from rural Arkansas has my vote!</p>
<p>Kid from Arkansas without question. Low grades from prep schools are red flags since many inflate grades to make their students as competitive for college admissions as possible.</p>
<p>Kid from Arkansas has my vote as well. I hope that Wake Forest is not populated with arrogant obnoxious prep school kids.</p>
<p>Arkansas kid has my vote too! No matter how competitive Andover and the like may be…the kid from Arkansas achieved a 4.0 on his/her own accord without any pressure from his peers. </p>
<p>I bet WFU got its reputation as Work Forest from average Vandover kids who overestimated their intelligence.</p>
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<p>did we answer your question?</p>
Hey! I know this is a reallllly old thread and the chances of getting a reply are slim to none but if you’re still active on this account, do you think you could chance me?
UW GPA: 3.64, W: 4.35 (I know, lower than average applicant)
SAT: 1900 (hopefully going to try and raise)
ACT: 30
EC: secretary of student council, secretary of Key Club, varsity cross country and track for four years, volunteer work in church, alter server since 3rd grade, missionary, yearbook editor
Honors: National Honors Latin Society, National Honors Society, two awards on National Latin Exam
I took 5 APs and the all Honors, minus one year of math and my theology classes (which were forced)
I know that you will probably never reply but just to see my chances! What would I have to do otherwise to get in? Please be honest!
Or if anyone in general would like to chance me that would be nice also 
I also forgot to add that I am on Peer Relations, a leadership council. That’s about it, I don’t think I forgot anything else 
Start this as a new “chance thread”. I have some thoughts for you.
This is a little late but I noticed that I’m half way into my junior year and college searches are blowing my mind. I’m interested into becoming a PA in the med field and Wake Forest has been mailing me information.
I was wondering if you think I’d have a good chance of getting admitted:
4.0 GPA (exactly 97.2543%)
My SATs were in the 1600-1700s. I have only taken one so far.
Numerous honors classes since 8th grade. Currently taking AP Courses
Nominated for many leadership programs including PR/HYLI
Participating in clubs that mentor kids and tutor them. I also am apart of a club that goes to different schools and teaches about HIV/AIDS and prevention.