<p>^ so are laws if you are going to go that far, not to make this into an argument…</p>
<p>^ Not all laws. Laws should only be to protect and defend liberty. Laws would only be against initiatory coercion. No contradiction.</p>
<p>So you’d want to privatize roads, electricity, water, education, defense, police and everything else?</p>
<p>Not defense and police, but yes, basically everything else.</p>
<p>How would you fund them without taxes?</p>
<p>Only people who want the services of the police/defense would pay for it. Most people do want defense against prospective criminals, so the police could easily be funded. The military would be scaled down drastically compared to the current size and reach.</p>
<p>('Tis called user fees if you want to look more into it.)</p>
<p>So police would only protect those who paid for their services?</p>
<p>Yes. Just like cable companies only provide cable for those who pay for their services.</p>
<p>Ah, I see. I’m guessing that you’d also want a minuscule government (if you want a government at all. Do you?). Would courts also be paid for by the same system as police and military? No possibility of a public defender, is there?</p>
<p>If all my taxes went to the military, I actually wouldn’t have a problem with it.</p>
<p>Your first paycheck was $1300? How did you make that much?</p>
<p>Yes, I want some government – a minarchist one to be exact. Courts/police/military would most likely be paid for with one fee. You pay for all or pay for none. This makes things more efficient and eases the free rider problem.</p>
<p>I don’t think publuc defenders would exist, though they could. The demand for lawyers instead of public defenders for poorer people would cause the wages that lawyers charge to decrease. And thus more people could afford lawyers. People would also be able to defend themselves as their own lawyers more easily in my system – where laws and statutes would be extremely simple.</p>
<p>@QwertyKey Like I said I’m interning at some white collar job, at a big corporation. What I make is nothing compared to the other interns here, because I’m in high school.</p>
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<p>It’s not free if you’re paying for it. Just sayin’.</p>
<p>It’s free for me… 
My grandchildren and rich people can pay for it.</p>
<p>back on topic: I generally agree with the whole “initiatory coercion” argument, but I believe some things, such as roads, police, and the military, are things that can only be practically done at a national level. We either have police protection, or we don’t. It’s not practicable to only protect “covered” citizens.</p>
<p>So if I don’t want military protection I don’t have to pay for it? That’s aight</p>
<p>And also doesn’t paying for police protection on an individual basis=bribery? That will just lead to vigilante justice. I suppose prisoners will pay for prison upkeep voluntarily also and that restaurants will fund the FDA?</p>
<p>You’re 17 and making a grand every 2 weeks or every month- either way- stop complaining. You’re lucky to even have a job in this economy. </p>
<p>Welcome to life. Now you know why we have roads, schools, police, firemen, etc. So… yeah.</p>
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<p>Even the staunchest of libertarians want a developed, government funded police force, military, and court systems. </p>
<p>These entities protect your physical and intellectual property rights. America’s excellent enforcement of property rights is the only reason we are world leaders in commerce. You don’t do business if you aren’t confident that realized profits remain your profits. </p>
<p>There are good reasons why foreign companies are afraid to set up shop in Mugabe’s Zimbabwe. Expropriation is a serious concern. Likewise, theft and copyright/patent/franchise/license infringement are serious concerns.</p>
<p>These aren’t civil matters. You’re talking about dismantling the foundations of capitalism. If these services are privately funded, then private entities will essentially control intellectual property. This stifles economic growth.</p>
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<p>Not in theory.
In practicality they do. But in theory, many libertarians don’t want those things.</p>