I know I don't stand a chance.

<p>You could probably throw a dart out the window and hit someone more qualified than I am, but I want to know your honest opinions.</p>

<p>Male
Caucasian
UW GPA-3.7
W GPA-3.74 </p>

<p>SAT-2320 (750 math, 800 reading, 770 writing)
SAT IIs- Bio M 800 Chemistry 800 Math II 750
ACT-35</p>

<p>ECs
A team (10,11,12)
Chess(9,10,11,12) president 12
Newspaper (11,12)
Web Design (11,12)
Science Fair (11,12)
Cancer Walk Organization (9,10,11,12) Captain for all years
those were the only <em>significant</em> ones</p>

<p>Hooks
1st generation student
Engineering at State University for 2 months</p>

<p>Essays- I feel they're quite unusual and choc-full of fun.
Recs- Better than real.
Counselor Rec- says I've got great character. </p>

<p>So, what are your opinions if I were to SCEA Yale or EA Yale.
I know my GPA is retarded to Yalians, but I want to try.</p>

<p>Nice test scores. If your essays are good, you could have a chance of using that “holistic” application approach to your advantage. But I wouldn’t say your chances are really good, or something like that, but you’re definitely not a definite reject. If you really want to go to the school, write a good Why Yale essay and apply EA, there’s no reason you shouldn’t apply to a school you really love. Just make sure you have good safeties that you love almost as much just in case. :)</p>

<p>I think it’s unheard of to love a safety. Thanks for your response.</p>

<p>As I hope you are aware, your SAT/Recs/Essays are good, while your GPA and ECs are not. Plus you are a caucasian male so you don’t have a bump.</p>

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<p>I disagree. You should still apply RD if you like Yale, but the SCEA pool is very very well qualified. You won’t have a shot. I’d apply ED to a less competitive school, and then apply RD to Yale if you don’t get in early decision.</p>

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You don’t necessarily have to loove it, but you should be happy with the safeties you DO chose. Mine are pretty spiffy. It won’t be utter misery/■■■-esque to attend them if I get in to no where else, basically.</p>

<p>Your weighted GPA is only .04 higher than your unweighted GPA… did you not take any honors/AP classes?</p>

<p>“Plus you are a caucasian male so you don’t have a bump.”</p>

<p>Being male can occasionally give a bump (e.g., at Kenyon). The majority of American college students are female.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/23/opinion/23britz.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/23/opinion/23britz.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“I disagree. You should still apply RD if you like Yale, but the SCEA pool is very very well qualified. You won’t have a shot. I’d apply ED to a less competitive school, and then apply RD to Yale if you don’t get in early decision.”</p>

<p>^Why not apply SCEA anyway? My mentality is that in the SCEA pool, there’s at least a chance of deferral, which isn’t possible in the RD pool.</p>

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<li><p>If you approach college admissions having already decided you won’t be admitted to your dream college, I absolutely, 100% guarantee that the outcome will be exactly as you predicted.</p></li>
<li><p>You stand a chance.</p></li>
<li><p>A qualified applicant who would get accepted in the RD round would either get accepted or deferred in the SCEA round. Admissions officers, especially at school’s of Yale’s calibre, aren’t idiots who whimsically accept or reject students depending on the time of year. Yes, the EA round has many highly qualified applicants, but someone who is destined to go in won’t be hurt by the round in which they choose to apply. Getting deferred SCEA and then accepted RD really comes down to the same thing as simply getting accepted EA, and there’s absolutely no chance that someone will be rejected EA if they would have been admitted RD.</p></li>
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<p>The reason that I said this is because the opportunity cost of applying SCEA is giving up an opportunity to another school early decision. I think the OP would probably do himself the best favor by applying to another school early decision and increasing his chances at that school. Obviously if Yale is the only school on his horizon then the OP should do SCEA, but if he cares most about getting into a very good school – perhaps not Yale – then I think early decision would serve him best.</p>

<p>But wait - you’re saying to apply ED at a less competitive school, and to potentially risk waving by to ever having the chance of even applying to Yale, the OP’s dream school?</p>