<p>TakeitDown: haha that’s a coincidence. obviously I’m not suggesting that those who get in from North Dakota aren’t as qualified, I’m just wondering in a hypothetical situation what would happen. When I was trying to get into my high school (it’s a magnet school with competitive admission), the school bragged about its diversity and 50/50 split between male and female. it seemed like they purposely made it so that it was this perfectly even, so we asked if this was true, and the school wouldn’t answer. I get the feeling the fact that there are similar ratios of male to female or race to race each year is no coincidence</p>
<p>NYMets: I knew it wasn’t meant badly or anything, I just thought it was funny.</p>
<p>I wish we had magnet schools here. There are about 4 people at my school who take learning seriously…</p>
<p>45 percenter: is it possible that they took those admit stats off the website because they were actually scaring potential applicants away? It would definitely benefit the acceptance rate (and #'s of applicants) if more would apply…good idea imo…</p>
<p>won’t change the perspective for those schools that have Naviance, but you never know what will change with Furda…</p>
<p>ps…you are NOT that old!! (I am)</p>
<p>with 99% of the class in the top 10%, they are pretty much telling everyone ranked outside of the top 10% not to apply. have they released the statistics for the class of 2013? (of what percent of the class was ranked in the top 10%), and if not when will they? I believe the 99% was for the class of 2012. I wonder if it’s the same (can’t really go up…)</p>
<p>NYorker: very true, but around here, the 5-10% are discouraged to apply; maybe without posting the stats, they can increase apps from that group…doesn’t mean they’re getting in but Upenn can use that group to appear more selective if more of them apply…</p>
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I erroneously assumed that you were an applicant or current undergrad. But I still may have more grey hairs–or even LESS hair–than you! :)</p>
<p>We are talking about an ivy league school here. acceptance rates under 10% are not bizarre at all. If you are in the 2-5% range, the acceptance rate is probably close to 6% as well. I believe those in <2% dramatically increases the percentage for that range (the 18% that is reported). So yes, applicants in the way top of their class have an undeniable advantage when applying. I believe it is more because these applicants not only have great class ranks, but a very strong application in every aspect. The fact is that the majority of applicants who apply to penn is denied. 6% should not look surprisingly low.</p>
<p>I mean, it makes sense even as a recent student of Penn. The kinds of people you work with were clearly among the top of their class, and the work is geared towards this type of student.</p>
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<p>yep, and also the fact that the 2013 stats list the middle 50% SAT’s of the enrolled students (which is logically lower than the SAT’s of the admitted students)</p>
<p>^^ that difference of SAT scores is probably a negligible amount… I am sure the average score for admitted students is around around 2160 as well</p>
<p>45: Wharton alumni…</p>
<p>Same here. :)</p>
<p>you know i didnt even know that students were ‘ranked’ in their grade till i started doing college stuff!? haha i thought it was so strange…
I’m at an international school in singapore, there def is no such thing</p>
<p>I attend a large, very competitive southern California public high school. In our area, a student may attend any public school that has enough room. When I was in eighth grade, four families from my church decided to take their kids to public high school near us (in poor areas) that were predominantly filled with URM students. Their kids weren’t super bright and their parents openly explained that their kids would have a much better chance of finishing at the top of their classes at those schools than if they attend my school (five years ago UC schools started guaranteeing admission to anyone finishing in the top 4% of their class). I remember feeling sorry for one of the girls. She’s very sweet and she was going to be the only Asian in her school (several others have since moved to that school, so she’s not alone). But she is ranked 1st in her class and is the president of the NHS and a few other academic clubs. I very much doubt she’d even be in the top 10 percent of our school. Her brother graduated number 1 two years ago and is now attending Stanford. With the benefit of understanding the admissions process, I know understand better why my friend’s family made this move. It paid off for them because class rank does matter a great deal to many schools. </p>
<p>I don’t think it’s right for families to moved around like this, but I guess it pays off. Two weeks ago, all students ranked in the top 1% of their classes were invited to a banquet and offered a full scholarship at Cal State schools. I laughed a little when I noticed that several of the top 1% of the inner city schools in our area were Asian, even though there’s no way they live within the school’s natural bounderies.</p>
<p>^ but penn also will consider the reputation and rigor of individual high school… cali schools might be different with that 4% rule</p>
<p>Given the rank information being withheld for Class of 2013, I thought my chances might go up. I am a double legacy, child of employee, with 2160 SATs and great EC’s, essays and I applied ED; my only problem is my GPA and rank (3.55 and top 18%). Do I stand a better chance for 2014? Has rank declined in importance?</p>
<p>^ I don’t think it lost importance… but it’s still possible to be admitted without an amazing class rank, even if only a small percentage are.</p>
<p>pennboy25, it’s really hard to say whether rank has declined in importance for the Class of 2014 (although it has certainly been deemphasized on the admissions web site :)), but it sounds like you have a lot going for you to compensate for a relatively lower GPA/class rank. It also depends on the difficulty of your courses and competitiveness of your school.</p>